Lafayette was a good general, Because he knew how to listen. He listened to the troops he commanded. They showed him how to use guerrila tactics and not that crazy "let's stand 50 yards apart and shoot at one another" crap
YEP! the same way he gave us free will so that we can choose to follow HIM. Even the Frenchies can choose a way or the WAY.
And you are offered as contradictory evidence.
Heh, heh, heh... :^)
"Roland Moore" a écrit dans le message de news:
45a005b1$0$27018$ snipped-for-privacy@roadrunner.com...That's pretty normal.
Someone need to have at least hated something else then fries and hamburger in there childhood, and develop a real sense of taste, to really appreciate French cuisine....
Too bad for you, French cuisine been declared many time in history as the best cuisine in the world...
And its cuisine, not cusine...not that I want to use a low level attack on you, but since you have a big tendency to point same typo to me, I return the favour...
Well Morgan, coming from you,I must say I am not surprise..
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You're right Petem, you caught me in a typo. It is certainly cuisine not cusine.
That still doesn't mean snails taste any good to anyone but the French. I personally don't care much for hamburgers and fries. I am more into veggies and fish.
Just before you guys go off the deep end discussing evolution versus creation I thought I might bring up some points that everyone can agree with. For one, none of us was there at the time so no one on the planet can say with certainty just what happened. Taking a course in evolution doesn't expose one to the origins argument, that only happens in bars, religious circles, newsgroups and the like. The Bible never mentions the word species or intelligent design. The concept of a species is vigorously debated in scientific circles, it is not a settled topic for many in that community. Outside that community species is thought to be well understood because regular folks think of species like the animals in a zoo; distinct and each to his or her own cage. Contrast that with someone that is convinced that a type of bacteria may be a different species from an identical one, because each type thrives in a slightly different temperature range. Certain other species reproduce before reaching their adult form. That is called neoteny. Would animals that are otherwise identical be considered different species if one was neotenic and the other not? Is everyone still awake? This is pretty boring stuff. That is my point. A species is an imaginary scientific concept that describes living things and then groups them according to how (essentially) their genetic makeup changes, (or doesn't change actually) over a typical human lifetime. There is nothing divine or even terribly interesting about it. And since religious scholars, evolutionary biologists and astro physicists never hang at the same bar, no one brings the concept of pan spermia (the notion that life started somewhere off the planet) to the table in a serious fashion. If you fell asleep with the remote in your hand, stay tuned. The silly posts you may encounter following this may be entertaining.
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You're wrong. I was there. Shortly after the 737 inverted, we encountered a quantum filament. For a few brief seconds we were transported back in time. I actually met and shook tentacles with one of Robert's ancestors. He was wearing a really tiny yarmulke. I have pictures.
The people that wrote the Bible weren't exactly "scientific".
From your description I would be afraid to look.
S>> Just before you guys go off the deep end discussing evolution versus
Want to really fix the on going issue??
Drop ADT or any system that is motion detector based. The problem is the technology not the company. Go wih Sonitrol Security. No motion detectors and their system has a variety of other advantages all based on thier technology.
Doctor "X"???
You mean Sonitrash, don't you. Their technology doesn't work. They miss more real alarms than most other companies but still call in a higher number of false alarms than most others.
You WERE replying on the subject regarding the lowest member of the evolutionary scale .... weren't you?
Hey I can expect these kinds of responses. You can't do what Sonitol does because your technology is limited and antiquated. I have seen multiple complaints that's say ADT installed their system and it did not work properly, so they brought in Bay to Monitor and they did not work out, so then they brought in Post, same problems. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that it is not the "monitoring company" that is at fault, it is the system / technology.
I got a buddy that works for ADT, I know exactly what they say about the product. You have to get a competitive edge. A traditional systems ONLY advantage is that everyone (or just about everyone) sell the same crap. Therefore the customer has know where to go and eventually excepts what they got... OR they switch companies, feel better for a while... and the cycle starts again.
Hey all system have failure rates. Nobody is perfect. You say you see Sonitrol Systems in abandon buildings, and you also see ADT, Honeywell, Bay, Post and a hundred other small and pop shops.
Oh, by the way... who is Robert Bass and why does he or anybody else think he is so smart? He sounds like the typical old consultant type trying to hang on the only technology he possess and makes every excuse in the book for why it dose not work except for the relevant excuse. The technology never worked well...ever but is was the only available option.
There is a better solution... Sonitrol Security... call for a presentation and evaluate for yourself
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Sonitrol is nothing more than a type of listen in technology. That kind of technology is great for alarm verification and little else. Listening to Sonitrol Security success stories is like listening to someone talk about all the good things that Hitler did. Why don't you include how many missed break-ins and law suits they have? Do you or does anyone really want some central station operator making a decision about your life and property only by what he or she hears? I was at a high profile soft drink manufacturer today listening to how proud the customer was of us because she saw in the local news where our system caught the bad guy at a nearby arena major events venue. Lots of folks posting here have similar success stories to tell. In our case it wouldn't have happened that way using Sonitrol, and I bet the others here would say the same thing. I can tell you for certain after using MGI and other now defunct manufacturers of similar product that it isn't what you seem to think it is. If it was every insurance company out there would be getting their customers to use it and making a ton of money from reduced loses.
You're almost right though in your statement. Let me help you.
Hey... These guys sound familiar. Ever hear of "AlarmFarce" errmm "Alarmforce"?? :-)
Ok, lets start slowly for you...
Your right Sonitrol is a "listen in technology" that offers "Alarm verification" and as far the Police are concerned this makes the call from a Sonitrol central station a higher priority than if your or any other alarm company called them. This is per the Police departments SOP nor Sonitrol's.
Your Hitler comment is embarrassing... yes, to you.
All alarm companies have misses, life sucks. We are the only company (please enlighten me if there is another) that if we miss we offer our client up to $5000 in compensation. Not a lot (considering what they might have lost) but I believe ADT offer the second highest which is $500. What we can offer is documented proof of over 156,000 apprehensions the Police have made because of our system. No other alarm company to my knowledge (including ADT) track this figure.
Lets see, you said "Do you or does anyone really want some central station operator making a decision about your life and property only by what he or she hears?" Well actually you do and consider three things...
1) What the central operator is listening to is the perimeter of your business or home. What that mean is we have advanced notice of the break in. What that means is that Sonitrol has the capability of calling the Police... ok are your ready...BEFORE THE BAD GUY GET'S IN. 2) Ok... If I had to rely on something "making a decision about my life and property" I would probably want to rely on a technology that allows for someone to evaluate the occurrence and that the POLICE DEEM A PRIORITY, as oppose to technology where the only interaction is a central station operator being notified that a door contact or a motion detector has gone off (Oh yeah, per Police department door contacts and motion detectors false over 90% of the time.). 3) Whether you like it or not or personally agree with it or not as far as the Police are concerned their SOP on call priorities are Police officer in trouble, armed robbery and "VERIFIED" burglar alarm. Reacting to a Non Verified alarm is 7th on the list.Sonitrol has been in business for over 30 years I am not sure how long MGI had been around. Sonitrol is Nation Wide with location in Canada and Europe. Sonitrol is the 4th largest Alarm company in the country... and only because only about 25% of our business is residential. We are a Commercial Security Provider.
Ahh excellent statement about the insurance companies. We live in a political world. Without politics by now whatever municipality your alarm company exists in the police would be requiring you offer them "Verified Notification" of a break in or else they WOULD NOT RESPOND.
Ok, but let's be fair and "unbunch your panties... Everybody make mistakes traditional systems, Sonitrol even the Police make mistakes... nobody is perfect. But come on throw me a bone... The traditional door contact / motion detector systems are a 50+ year old technology. There is really better stuff out there... the problem... the technology (Sonitrol's) is proprietary and Sonitrol limits it's franchises. So ya want poke hold is the Sonitrol system.... go ahead. Maybe you feel it take attention away from the multiple inadequacies and real limitations of your system. You know the Motorola "Brick Phone" was by far one of the best phone for it time and quite frankly if you still own one, pound for pound it a great phone... but that technology as good as it was is just "outdated" and although the phone may work (actually is wont because it is not digital) why would you want to use it when more modern phones (that have their limitation as well) offer some much more reliability.
So try not to be so closede minded ... especially since Sonitrol probabally did not allow you to sell ther product line.
Again we are the better solution... Sonitrol Security... call for a presentation and evaluate for yourself.
Mention Pyro and I'll get back to you..
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