New house system recomendation

that actually looks better than the telephone one that being touted a few weeks ago...

revolutionary?? sheesh!

You miss the point

straight over the top,

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Still doesn't provide line seizure though. A number of other "issues" are evident as well.

dint say it looked good...only sarcastically better than the telephone with built in pir or whatever that thing was

| > revolutionary?? sheesh! | | Still doesn't provide line seizure though. A number of other "issues" | are evident as well.

In my opinion .....the reason Napco is considered by others to be so hard to program is because it's more flexible than other panels.

I agree, and disagree.... When it comes to things like customizing zone response Napco panels are GREAT... However, something as simple as disabling (without eliminating key feedback tones) the chime on the master bedroom keypad and allowing the chime to work on all other keypads in the home is elusive to the Napco line... Unless, you make the customer buy their LCD keypads... Don't get me wrong, I like Napco, I use a P3200 in my home... I'm still waiting for the P1664 (USA version)....... Regards, Russ

No, its because the act of programming it is far more cumbersome than any other panel manufacturer

Also I think they have some location errors in the latest P1664 installation manual

I've had one for months now, are they not out in quantities yet?

I suppose you've never tried Ademco, OR you're just not proficient in programming Napco products.

My distributor told me they're not available in the US yet, and that Napco doesn't know when it will be...... :-(

Mine has strange dialing issue that recently cropped up but its one of the few panels out there that can send multiple signals within a SIA string so I keep it around, nice system but more complicated to program than it has to be

I've programmed about every panel made within the last 15 years from just about every manufacturer. I programmed countless Napco 1000/1008/1016, XP and GEM systems out in the field. Napco has ALWAYS been more difficult to program or even explain programming to someone else.

My primary panel of choice these days is Ademco and GE

totally agree on the Napco. sheesh even trying to read the old 800 programming book would give me a migraine.

| > > No, its because the act of programming it is far more cumbersome than | any | > > other panel manufacturer | >

| > I suppose you've never tried Ademco, OR you're just not proficient in | > programming Napco products. | | | I've programmed about every panel made within the last 15 years from just | about every manufacturer. I programmed countless Napco 1000/1008/1016, XP | and GEM systems out in the field. Napco has ALWAYS been more difficult to | program or even explain programming to someone else. | | My primary panel of choice these days is Ademco and GE | |

Again, apparently you're not that proficient: I have NO Problem or difficulty with ANY Napco programming- Ademco IS confusing! For the Last

I am quite proficient thank you, again all I can tell you is they are the most difficult to program and the most difficult to explain to others how to program. The damn things come with 3 manuals for crying out loud. Look at Napco's market share and you'll see most other companies feel the same way

GE is by far the easiest and Ademco is a close second

FBII is second, Ademco 3rd IMO. Napco is definitely too confusing. If a tech can't just pick up a manual on an unfamiliar panel and figure out how to program it within 10 minutes, it's too confusing.

FBI is down the list mainly because of the zillion options for each program location