Ademco Panel

It just seems to me that a six zone panel isn't going to hack it for most residential situations, no matter how skillfully it was installed.

Merry Christmas

Doug L

I probably wouldn't do that either, but that would be my call (or the client's) not my techs.

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Depends ! In this particular home, it was set up to give decent but not exceptional coverage. Most of these companies that do these installations are forced by the builder into a "lowest price possible" situation and react accordingly. Personally, I would have installed an 832 so the panel wouldn't be at capacity from day one, plus wired the windows as well, but ...hey...I didn't install it. All the windows in the home are the thick, double paned crank windows and are at least 8 feet off the ground, backed up by motion detectors, so the risk factor is pretty low.

But the installer did a superb wiring job regardless of his bosses ethical standards. Again, credit where credit is due !

Merry Xmas to all you guys as well. Our Xmas is coloured a little with the death of my father-in-law late yesterday; however, given that he was a vegetable from Altzeimers for the last few years, it is a blessing in disguise !! The Lord works in stange ways some times...

I hope the coming year brings you all happiness and business success that exceeds your expectations !

RHC

if you did you would be giving th other company a chance to 'snake' you out and get the account back themselves. after all they know the install and the code and will probably undersell you by $1 just to get the account. I have learned this the hard way. don't tell anybody anything.

UPDATE:

After reading posts to this thread, I called the installer back and insisted that he tell me whether or not he had used an installer code that could not reset using the Ademco power-up installer code reset sequence. He said that they DO NOT lockout the Ademco power-up reset sequence and that any installer knowledgeable about Ademco would be able to reset the installer code and reprogram the panel.

It seems the first tech I spoke with gave me incorrect information. The first guy told me that only one their techs could access the programming mode of the panel. Turns out he was wrong . . . ooops.

exactly. plus it makes you look dumb in the client's eyes

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DUH?

Here's the problem:

Yes the builders DO push for the least costly panel. A number of years ago, working for such a builder, I used a 6 burg zone panel in the following way. Keypad mounted half way between front and inner garage door. Zone one, front and garage door, entry exit. Zone two, front windows (6) Zone three, back of house, 5 windows, and slider door. zone four, den, living room, kitchen motion . Zone 5, master bedroom motion. Zone 6, basement windows. Fire, two smokes, on fire zone.

Was home run wired for each opening, for ease of trouble shooting. Not the most convenient or elaborate system but it does the job.

Most builder don't care what you put in as long as it's cheap cheap cheap....you could put in a 2 zone panel for all they care.

| > But the installer did a superb wiring job regardless of his bosses ethical | > standards. Again, credit where credit is due ! | >

| > Merry Xmas to all you guys as well. Our Xmas is coloured a little with the | > death of my father-in-law late yesterday; however, given that he was a | > vegetable from Altzeimers for the last few years, it is a blessing in | > disguise !! The Lord works in stange ways some times... | >

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Aint that the truth ! So when you go in to takeover the system, and you point out the shortcomings to the customer, you're inevitably met with..."whaaaat....I paid a thousand bucks for this system !!!"

RHC

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?

What I found is that there is a power-up installer code reset sequence that will allow a reset of the installer code to factory default. However it is possible for the installer to set a code that defeats the power-up reset sequence, thus preventing a reset to the factory default. In this case Compass is required.

which one did you have?