Radioncs 9112 lockcode (2025 Update)

Oct 07, 2006 Last reply: 8 months ago 19 Replies

Good evening all, I just got a Radionics 9112 panel, first thing I did was lock the reset pin and try to check for a lockcode with my 5200. Of course it was locked! Is there a way to zap the code back to default, such as by removing the coin cell battery? Are there certain lockcodes that people use a lot, like



54321 or 11111 or something that I might want to try? One other thing, is there a way to use a D1252 on that panel in an unsupervised fashion, such as on serial bus?

Any help is appreciated, Logan


Once you remove the lithium cell with the panel powered down, you now have a totally useless panel. I can however fix this. You will need to send me the board for unlocking. There is no magic key, just a custom interface & software we use to restore locked out panels.

Jim Rojas

It has one master lock then several underlings. If Jim can unlock it go for it...otherwise there is no way.

Since you said you are using a D5200 I assume you are talking about the data lock code and not the RAM password. There is a way to unlock a data locked panel. There is a single back door code installed by the original programmer of the panel software back in the days when Salinas (I can still smell the chocolate) was headquarters (and he told his bosses to their face there wasn't one). There is a technique for doing it that involves the placement of the back door code in the proper position of data lock codes. It does also involve removing CMOS battery power (for about 5 minutes to drain the capacitors - on 9412GV2 panels it takes about 30 minutes because of the "super" capacitors they use instead of the regular ones on the older panels). Once you do that you can set the data lock code to default. If you don't want to do that you can send it back to Bosch to unlock it but they will charge you $40.00 to do it (if you're still a valid Bosch dealer -or even if you're on repair staus if you've been kicked off for lack of sales volume). Do you have RPS software or are you stuck with the D5200 programmer? What version of firmware is in the panel? I think they're up to

6.81 now. On the second question I think it is a D1255 keypad on G series panels (the D1252 works on the D8112 series) and you can set it to being supervised or not in the software. Did anyone ever let you attend a G series training class?

I always get a laugh out of that, sorry Mr Small Insignificant Dealer, due to the fact that you are not selling enough Radionics product we are going to drop you as a dealer, OK fine thanks very much but just how is that going to increase sales of Radionics products?

Doug

If you think Bosch is bad about kicking dealers off for lack of volume how about GE? GE went from 1300 dealers (when it bought Infographics) to 300 and is shooting for 100. Ouch!

Tell us more. What is that back door lock code? Maybe you can write a Technogram...

- badenov

The guy in the original post sounded a bit confused but he might be legit. If you've been to RPS class they tell you about the unlock code. It is not a secret. The bad guys already know about it. I didn't say what the code was or where to put it or fully explain the process. Why not let the good guys that don't know about it yet find out. Once they know it exists they can go through proper channels to find out the particulars if they need to unlock a panel. If they're the bad guy they'll keep guessing. Bosch panels end up in some pretty high security areas. If you've data locked a panel and think it is bullet-proof I think it is important to know that there is a way to defeat it. I just explained that there is a hole in the data lock feature and how it came to be. You might rely too much on data lock when you should actually do more to protect the panel and its data from attack. I was trying to be helpful to those concerns. I didn't rat out anything here.

"Technograms" from Bosch these days usually mean you're go>

I've never felt the need to go to an RPS class, since I've been using RAM since before it had Roman numerals. Do they actually give you the back door code in class, or just tell you that it exists?

Datalock was never intended as a way to keep bad guys out of programming. It was developed at the request of the big alarm companies, who wanted to prevent their smaller competitors from reprogramming their panels. This is why there is no way to use a 5200 to restore a panel to the factory defaults if the lock code is unknown: that feature would allow one alarm company to take over another alarm company's panel.

Personally, I think if the customer owns the panel, then any Bosch dealer should be able to default it and reprogram it. Bosch disagrees. But what really pisses me off is that if the lithium battery in a panel dies, and AC and main battery are disconnected, the panel cannot be reprogrammed by anyone except the Bosch factory. I'm locked out of panels that I paid for! And I have to pay Bosch an extortion fee to get them fixed. It's doubly bad, since in some of the panels, the lithium battery is soldered into the board, and changing it is no easy matter. Preventive maintenance is not an option.

- badenov

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replying to Logan, mike wrote: There is a back door LOCKOUT code for all BOSCH Radionics panels this code is only on the firmware chip on the board it took me 20 years to figure out how this code works it is a back door code they can only be used if the panel is completely dead (CALL FOR SERVICE) on the keypad I have this code now obtained by reading the firmware chip programming mounts of looking at thousands of pages of numbers.

P. S there is no way to default a Radionics panel

Sure there is.

You take it off the wall and throw it in the garbage can.

There! Defaulted ....... and never to arise again.

It was always my opinion that the sole purpose of any company that used Rad ionics equipment was precisely for the purpose of locking in their customer s and keeping out other alarm companies from taking over their customers. A nd ..... that this ultimately led to those companies decline.

If you don't have customers because they "want" to be your customers ...... . If your customers are "captured" ...... it ultimately leads to you and y our employees thinking that there is no reason to give the best of service. It's just human nature. If a company doesn't "have" to give good service b ecause they can't leave you anyway then..... you wont. If you have to give good service or they'll leave you ..... you will. (Well, at least "most" co mpanies will.

Lockouts may work for awhile but when a problem occurs and your customers e ventually figure that out that they don't have a choice .... at the first o pportunity they will leave you.

I have 3 separate 9000 Main Panels , two 9412G and one 7412G that are now responding to RPS with 5017 invalid datalock . I have replaced the Li 3volt battery in each .How can I save the $150 extortion fee Bosch now wants to restore these already older control panels? Is the back door code the same for all or specific to each (firmware chip) ?

Hi Mike,

I am trying to reset my D7412G Panel and need the master code. Do you have that code?

Thanks

LOL You do know that your are responding to your own message from January 2016?? You really do, right??

Do you know what the master code is?

can you still unlock d9412gv2? Charlie

914-213-7890

LOL The question was asked over 4 years ago!!

I've seen zombie posts pop up over on RCM from the 90s. This one is a youngster.

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