Wireless Security system info wanted

Mar 10, 2006 69 Replies

Nah not quite enough. Let's REALLY fill him in on who he would be dealing with should he want to buy parts for his project. Well ............. welcome to the ASA continuing saga of soap opera affairs.

Robert Bass is a long time trouble maker here in ASA. He's insulted just about anyone and everyone who takes any position that even slightly opposes his. He takes swipes at people and then when they respond and get angry at his arrogance and snotty attitude, he will then stand aloof and say they are the cause.

Many years ago, he was ousted from an aviation group for doing the very same thing that he does here. So my description of his attitude and methods now ...... is documented in posts made all those years ago by a number of other people, in almost the very same words. In other words, he does it on purpose. He has called peoples employers to try to get them in trouble and has called various other entities to get people in trouble, claiming they were not properly installing alarms. He has been caught canceling other people posts and posting to competitors web sites under the name of members of this group, that he doesn't get along with. A nasty, sneaky SOB, to say the least. He's even reported someone to one of the aviation boards for flying while intoxicated, yet had no proof. In other words, because he had a disagreement in the news group, he tried to get even by getting the other person barred from flying.

Bass's sole and only purpose here is to promote and sell equipment from his web site. He ridicules anyone who thinks that he shouldn't be doing that and constantly belittles alarm installers. The original FAQ of the group said that there should be no advertising, but he ignores that. The original founder of the group Steve Rykman left the group in total frustration many years ago, because of the futility of trying to make the group a peaceful place with out it being moderated. The turmoil was over Bass insisting on advertising his web site to end users and his arrogant attitude towards installers who do this for a living. Bass continuously mocks installers so as to make it appear that all end users can install systems easily. Unfortunately, Steve finally left.

The problem with what he does here is, it disrupts the group so much and no one comes here to add to the conversation and those that do, without seeing the past history of *why* ............ only see the disruption that I or anyone who outwardly opposes him causes, and it only looks like we and not Bass, who's the cause of the carnage. Again, the past turmoil that occurred in the aviation group was of the same nature as occurs here. So it's not just a coincidence that in both groups that he's in, that it's like this.

At present all is pretty calm because everyone pretty much lets him get away with what ever egotistical and pompous posts he makes. Most don't like what he does here but many wont join in any attempt to sanction him for any reason. By the way, privately (by e-mail) they just plain don't like him, but they're just too laid back to get involved with trying to put him in his place. I cannot count the number of people who no longer come here because of what this man has caused in this group. I would estimate forty or fifty people, at the least.

Just thought I'd fill you in a little. I've been here for about 7 years and Bass is just one of those people that, it it were real life, you'd leave any group he was involved with, because you'd likely wind up being put away for assault. He's an instigator and a purveyor of turmoil wherever he goes.

If you'd like references to do some searches on past events, just let me know. He's a nasty arrogant lying SOB and a Google search will prove it. Unfortunately in such groups as this, people like yourself don't have the history of misfits like this and can be easily taken in by his slimey offerings of help. He's had repeated complaints against him and repeated claims of no response to emails, when his customers need help.

Beware and buy elsewhere. You"ve got nothing to lose by going somewhere else for you equipment.

Jim

This will be time consuming but you might like the challenge. Rather than spending money on a tool that you might only use once try using something like a plastic spatula or taping knife as a wedge between the molding and carpet, and tuck the wire underneath the molding. Push the carpet back into place and do NOT staple the wires in. Regardless of what anyone says keep in mind you will one day replace that carpet, and you'd be best served if you didn't need to rerun wire again because the carpet guy snipped the wire. Just food for thought.

Tom

snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote:

Wait'll you see the new uniforms!! :-)

Y'know, The OP should really take some time and Google "Robert L Bass liar" in Google's "Groups" page. First, precede it with "alt.security.alarms", then "alt.rec.aviation". It's truly amazing what's out there (and what's worse, it's all posted from his own keyboard).

I can't remember all the lies he's told about me (the list just keeps growing). He hasn't been able to peg down where I work so continues to make references to my being a "counter clerk", has blatantly lied about my "offering" to donate money to some fireman's museum, then reneging on it and a whole lot more.

He absolutely refuses to answer some key questions I've put to him regarding his installation experience in CT, continues to make misleading comments about that "experience" (even though he isn't licensed in Florida), and what's even more ludicrous, figures his "customer support" is on a par with "Smarthome" or "Norcoalarms". What's really incredible is that most of his customers wind up posting their questions and complaints into this Newsgroup as it's practically impossible to call him on the phone, and you can "forget" email. He hasn't updated his "office's" address for months.

It's best not to respond to him at all, IMHO. Practically the only reason I do these days is to ask for some form of "proof" for his more outlandish claims and stories (you'll notice he's never responded).

In addition to what Jim's said, be aware that he has pop-under advertising on his primary website (which he vehemently denies to this day). The most insidious of the ads that "rotate" on each visit is called "Winfixer" which has been identified by Symantec as a moderate security risk. The pop-up for this software is "timed" very carefully and if you "left click" too quickly you could easily wind up installing it. I'd suggest using a good "pop-up/pop-under" blocker. I do hope the OP sticks around for the "kicks and giggles" though.

Frank Olson

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Hey Dave,

If you haven't already solved your problem, I think you should check out

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A complete wireless security system, at an affordable price. It can be upgraded, and is highly customizable. You won't have to worry about the wiring, it works with your existing wires. The siren is very loud, and the system controls lighting as well. The base system comes with two remotes, a standard remote, and a keychain remote, both control arm/disarm-control panic feature- and lighting controls.

I think this might be along the lines of what you are looking for. If not maybe it will give you more ideas for a solution.

Thank you,

Owen x10securityteam

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If you pull up a small section of carpet at a time and put it right back on the tack strips as you go you might get away without using a carpet kicker.

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| > snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | >

| >>Yep, i do post post in the rec.aviation sites once and awhile. | >>I talked with a friend who does alarm stuff for a living and he | >>suggested the Ademco. | >>

| >>I really don't have a way to run a cable for the key pad to the front of | >>the house. He suggested the FOB for entry and having the keypad in the | >>rear of the house closer to the control head. (the only place i can run | >>wire due to 2-story and tile floors) | >>

| >>I will do monitoring, its cheaper than I thought and the insurance | >>discount will cover most of the cost. | >>

| >>Thanks for the help, all. | >>

| >>Dave | >>

| >>P.S. I don't know Bass, unless he's the guy posting for Belfort instruments. | >>

| >>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | >>

| >>>I see you also post to rec.aviation. Ask those folks in there about | >>>this guy Bass. He was the ultimate rec.aviation troll. They used to | >>>call him BoBo. He was a student pilot who posted as if he were Orville | >>>Wright himself. | >>>

| >>>As for the DIY alarm, unless you really know how to run a wire without | >>>going staple gun crazy then hire an alarm company to do it. It's really | >>>not worth it on the DIY side. You save a few hundred bucks but lose | >>>precious time reading manuals and trying to figure out how to install | >>>the system, when for the few extra bucks someone who knows what they | >>>are doing can have your system up and running within hours. | >>>Tell me what State you are in and I'll help you find a decent company. | >>>

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| >>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | >>>

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| >>>>One of my neighbors was probably in the house, or at least her daughter | >>>>who has a drug problem. Thats one of my problems. | >>>>The other neighbor doesn't have much visability to my entrance ways. | >>>>

| >>>>Your probably right on the monitoring service. I'll look into it!! | >>>>

| >>>>Thanks | >>>>

| >>>>Dave | >>>>

| >>>>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | >>>>

| >>>>

| >>>>>Where were the neighbors during the burglary? | >>>>>Check their next tag sale and you'll see everything you are missing. | >>>>>I'm not one to gossip but word on the street says the neighbors have | >>>>>been casing your crib since the day you moved in. | >>>>>

| >>>>>Whatever alarm system you choose to have installed make sure it is | >>>>>monitored! | >>>>>

| >>>>>

| >>>>>

| >>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | >>>>>

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| >>>>>>Frank Olson wrote: | >>>>>>

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| >>>>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | >>>>>>>

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| >>>>>>>>Hi, | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>I need a security system and have been looking at the Ademco LNXRPK, | >>>>>>>>Visionx PowerMax, Napco P3200 and DSC PC5020. | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>The house is two stories about 1800 sqft with about 20 windows. I | >>>>>>>>figured that two motion alarms with wireless entrance alarms for the | >>>>>>>>two downstairs entrances would cover most of the house. | >>>>>>>>Also I would like to have a smoke alarm and a wireless remote siren. | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>I'm not going to have the system monitored at this point, but will | >>>>>>>>have it call me or my neighbors when an alarm gets detected. | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>Any of the above mentioned systems standout better than the others? | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>Is there another system I should look at? | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>Thanks in advance! | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>Dave | >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>Scroll up a little and have a look at the thread about "DIY | >>>>>>>recommendations requested". | >>>>>>>

| >>>>>>>Frank Olson | >>>>>>>

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| >>>>>>Frank, | >>>>>>

| >>>>>>i saw the thread, but it didn't address my needs. | >>>>>

| >>>>>>From What I've seen only Ademco has a wireless keypad, but it doesn't | >>>>>

| >>>>>>have a cabinet for the CPU. | >>>>>>I'm new at this, just had my house burglerized this week and looking for | >>>>>>a solution. | >>>>>>I need pretty much wireless everything. No basement or availablity to | >>>>>>the attic for wiring. The mounting of the CPU and keypad in different | >>>>>>sides of the house. | >>>>>>

| >>>>>>I wish I had more flexability for more of a hybrid system. | >>>>>>

| >>>>>>If I was in a single story or had a basement, i'd be in high cotton. | >>>>>>

| >>>>>>Dave | >>>>>

| >>>>>

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I've tried it that way but it usually looks better afterward if you use the carpet kicker. I don't mind running a small cable between the tack strip and the wall but I wouldn't advise running wire across the middle of the floor under the carpet. I've seen this on numerous takeovers. The idiots who originally installed the systems ran cable right across the room instead of around the edges. Within a short time normal foot traffic destroys the cable.

yea me too. I went out to take over a DIY system that had done this. Also run wire down corner of walls for motions, a real mess. Declined the take over. Looked like a monkey had done the install with just enough phone tech support to be dangerous. A good installer can usually tuck the wires under base board or pull carpet out from under base board if too tight to tuck, then kick back with foot or carpet kicker after retucking carpet.

I didn't realize you were in Waco. :^)

Hey...I'm slow, but I doo gud werk.

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| > | > snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | >

| > | >>Yep, i do post post in the rec.aviation sites once and awhile. | > | >>I talked with a friend who does alarm stuff for a living and he | > | >>suggested the Ademco. | > | >>

| > | >>I really don't have a way to run a cable for the key pad to the front of | > | >>the house. He suggested the FOB for entry and having the keypad in the | > | >>rear of the house closer to the control head. (the only place i can run | > | >>wire due to 2-story and tile floors) | > | >>

| > | >>I will do monitoring, its cheaper than I thought and the insurance | > | >>discount will cover most of the cost. | > | >>

| > | >>Thanks for the help, all. | > | >>

| > | >>Dave | > | >>

| > | >>P.S. I don't know Bass, unless he's the guy posting for Belfort | > instruments. | > | >>

| > | >>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | > | >>

| > | >>>I see you also post to rec.aviation. Ask those folks in there about | > | >>>this guy Bass. He was the ultimate rec.aviation troll. They used to | > | >>>call him BoBo. He was a student pilot who posted as if he were Orville | > | >>>Wright himself. | > | >>>

| > | >>>As for the DIY alarm, unless you really know how to run a wire without | > | >>>going staple gun crazy then hire an alarm company to do it. It's really | > | >>>not worth it on the DIY side. You save a few hundred bucks but lose | > | >>>precious time reading manuals and trying to figure out how to install | > | >>>the system, when for the few extra bucks someone who knows what they | > | >>>are doing can have your system up and running within hours. | > | >>>Tell me what State you are in and I'll help you find a decent company. | > | >>>

| > | >>>

| > | >>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | >>>

| > | >>>

| > | >>>>One of my neighbors was probably in the house, or at least her | > daughter | > | >>>>who has a drug problem. Thats one of my problems. | > | >>>>The other neighbor doesn't have much visability to my entrance ways. | > | >>>>

| > | >>>>Your probably right on the monitoring service. I'll look into it!! | > | >>>>

| > | >>>>Thanks | > | >>>>

| > | >>>>Dave | > | >>>>

| > | >>>>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | > | >>>>

| > | >>>>

| > | >>>>>Where were the neighbors during the burglary? | > | >>>>>Check their next tag sale and you'll see everything you are missing. | > | >>>>>I'm not one to gossip but word on the street says the neighbors have | > | >>>>>been casing your crib since the day you moved in. | > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>Whatever alarm system you choose to have installed make sure it is | > | >>>>>monitored! | > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>>Frank Olson wrote: | > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | >>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>

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| > | >>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>Hi, | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>I need a security system and have been looking at the Ademco | > LNXRPK, | > | >>>>>>>>Visionx PowerMax, Napco P3200 and DSC PC5020. | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>The house is two stories about 1800 sqft with about 20 windows. I | > | >>>>>>>>figured that two motion alarms with wireless entrance alarms for | > the | > | >>>>>>>>two downstairs entrances would cover most of the house. | > | >>>>>>>>Also I would like to have a smoke alarm and a wireless remote | > siren. | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>I'm not going to have the system monitored at this point, but will | > | >>>>>>>>have it call me or my neighbors when an alarm gets detected. | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>Any of the above mentioned systems standout better than the | > others? | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>Is there another system I should look at? | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>Thanks in advance! | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>Dave | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>Scroll up a little and have a look at the thread about "DIY | > | >>>>>>>recommendations requested". | > | >>>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>>Frank Olson | > | >>>>>>>

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| > | >>>>>>Frank, | > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>i saw the thread, but it didn't address my needs. | > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>>From What I've seen only Ademco has a wireless keypad, but it | > doesn't | > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>>have a cabinet for the CPU. | > | >>>>>>I'm new at this, just had my house burglerized this week and looking | > for | > | >>>>>>a solution. | > | >>>>>>I need pretty much wireless everything. No basement or availablity | > to | > | >>>>>>the attic for wiring. The mounting of the CPU and keypad in | > different | > | >>>>>>sides of the house. | > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>I wish I had more flexability for more of a hybrid system. | > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>If I was in a single story or had a basement, i'd be in high cotton. | > | >>>>>>

| > | >>>>>>Dave | > | >>>>>

| > | >>>>>

| > | >

|

the way they do carpet out here there usually isn't much room under the baseboards, so it's usually peel back enough to channel the tack strip then lay the wire on the room side of the tack strip...or remove the baseboards and slot the drywall then re-install the baseboards (yecho)...thank god for good wireless systems.

| > I've tried it that way but it usually looks better afterward if | > you use the carpet kicker. I don't mind running a small cable | > between the tack strip and the wall but I wouldn't advise running | > wire across the middle of the floor under the carpet. I've seen | > this on numerous takeovers. The idiots who originally installed | > the systems ran cable right across the room instead of around the | > edges. Within a short time normal foot traffic destroys the | > cable. | | yea me too. I went out to take over a DIY system that had done this. Also | run wire down corner of walls for motions, a real mess. Declined the take | over. Looked like a monkey had done the install with just enough phone tech | support to be dangerous. | A good installer can usually tuck the wires under base board or pull | carpet out from under base board if too tight to tuck, then kick back with | foot or carpet kicker after retucking carpet. | |

But can you get 2 Napco alpha's attached to the same system to display two totally different messages simultaneously? Huh? Huh? Huh? That's what I figured. Come back when you learn it :-)

Crash Gord> Hey...I'm slow, but I doo gud werk.

Most of the homes in Florida these days only have carpet in the bedrooms. Everyplace else is tile or granite. I've run cable behind the baseboard molding occasionally -- not fun. We did a bunch of old homes in New Britain, CT, many years ago. Most were built in the early 1920's. Several were over 100 years old. In the largest one there was an outside patio that had been enclosed and they wanted the doors and screens protected. We did alarm screens on all the windows in that house, around 40 of them.

The baseboard in the patio room was tile. A tech who worked for me for many years did the job. He routed the plaster wall just above the tile, removed the wood trim around an outside door and all the windows, ran his wires, installed the door contacts and window screens, closed everything up and touched up the paint (fortunately, the room had recently been painted and there was a little of the wall color left over). When the customer got home he couldn't find a trace of where we had worked. He was the best technician I ever had.

I had a page on my FAQ describing the proper way to remove and replace baseboards and door/window trim. It was a combination of things I've done myself and things learned from that same technician.

not me...i hate programming napcos

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| > | > | > snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | >

| > | > | >>Yep, i do post post in the rec.aviation sites once and awhile. | > | > | >>I talked with a friend who does alarm stuff for a living and he | > | > | >>suggested the Ademco. | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>I really don't have a way to run a cable for the key pad to the | > front of | > | > | >>the house. He suggested the FOB for entry and having the keypad in | > the | > | > | >>rear of the house closer to the control head. (the only place i can | > run | > | > | >>wire due to 2-story and tile floors) | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>I will do monitoring, its cheaper than I thought and the insurance | > | > | >>discount will cover most of the cost. | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>Thanks for the help, all. | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>Dave | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>P.S. I don't know Bass, unless he's the guy posting for Belfort | > | > instruments. | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | > | > | >>

| > | > | >>>I see you also post to rec.aviation. Ask those folks in there about | > | > | >>>this guy Bass. He was the ultimate rec.aviation troll. They used to | > | > | >>>call him BoBo. He was a student pilot who posted as if he were | > Orville | > | > | >>>Wright himself. | > | > | >>>

| > | > | >>>As for the DIY alarm, unless you really know how to run a wire | > without | > | > | >>>going staple gun crazy then hire an alarm company to do it. It's | > really | > | > | >>>not worth it on the DIY side. You save a few hundred bucks but lose | > | > | >>>precious time reading manuals and trying to figure out how to | > install | > | > | >>>the system, when for the few extra bucks someone who knows what | > they | > | > | >>>are doing can have your system up and running within hours. | > | > | >>>Tell me what State you are in and I'll help you find a decent | > company. | > | > | >>>

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| > | > | >>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | >>>

| > | > | >>>

| > | > | >>>>One of my neighbors was probably in the house, or at least her | > | > daughter | > | > | >>>>who has a drug problem. Thats one of my problems. | > | > | >>>>The other neighbor doesn't have much visability to my entrance | > ways. | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | >>>>Your probably right on the monitoring service. I'll look into it!! | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | >>>>Thanks | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | >>>>Dave | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | >>>>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | >>>>

| > | > | >>>>>Where were the neighbors during the burglary? | > | > | >>>>>Check their next tag sale and you'll see everything you are | > missing. | > | > | >>>>>I'm not one to gossip but word on the street says the neighbors | > have | > | > | >>>>>been casing your crib since the day you moved in. | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>Whatever alarm system you choose to have installed make sure it | > is | > | > | >>>>>monitored! | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | >>>>>

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| > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>Frank Olson wrote: | > | > | >>>>>>

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| > | > | >>>>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>

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| > | > | >>>>>>>>Hi, | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>I need a security system and have been looking at the Ademco | > | > LNXRPK, | > | > | >>>>>>>>Visionx PowerMax, Napco P3200 and DSC PC5020. | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>The house is two stories about 1800 sqft with about 20 | > windows. I | > | > | >>>>>>>>figured that two motion alarms with wireless entrance alarms | > for | > | > the | > | > | >>>>>>>>two downstairs entrances would cover most of the house. | > | > | >>>>>>>>Also I would like to have a smoke alarm and a wireless remote | > | > siren. | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>I'm not going to have the system monitored at this point, but | > will | > | > | >>>>>>>>have it call me or my neighbors when an alarm gets detected. | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>Any of the above mentioned systems standout better than the | > | > others? | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>Is there another system I should look at? | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>Thanks in advance! | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>Dave | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>Scroll up a little and have a look at the thread about "DIY | > | > | >>>>>>>recommendations requested". | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>>Frank Olson | > | > | >>>>>>>

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| > | > | >>>>>>Frank, | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>i saw the thread, but it didn't address my needs. | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>From What I've seen only Ademco has a wireless keypad, but it | > | > doesn't | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>have a cabinet for the CPU. | > | > | >>>>>>I'm new at this, just had my house burglerized this week and | > looking | > | > for | > | > | >>>>>>a solution. | > | > | >>>>>>I need pretty much wireless everything. No basement or | > availablity | > | > to | > | > | >>>>>>the attic for wiring. The mounting of the CPU and keypad in | > | > different | > | > | >>>>>>sides of the house. | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>I wish I had more flexability for more of a hybrid system. | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>If I was in a single story or had a basement, i'd be in high | > cotton. | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>>Dave | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | >

| > | |

You actually program your panels? Damn Crash you need to do what I do. Just call Mark and ask him to do it. BTW, what part of the Northeast did you live in?

Crash Gord> not me...i hate programming napcos

LI NYC Ballmore, Md.

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| > | > | > | > snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | >>Yep, i do post post in the rec.aviation sites once and awhile. | > | > | > | >>I talked with a friend who does alarm stuff for a living and he | > | > | > | >>suggested the Ademco. | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>I really don't have a way to run a cable for the key pad to the | > | > front of | > | > | > | >>the house. He suggested the FOB for entry and having the keypad | > in | > | > the | > | > | > | >>rear of the house closer to the control head. (the only place i | > can | > | > run | > | > | > | >>wire due to 2-story and tile floors) | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>I will do monitoring, its cheaper than I thought and the | > insurance | > | > | > | >>discount will cover most of the cost. | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>Thanks for the help, all. | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>Dave | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>P.S. I don't know Bass, unless he's the guy posting for Belfort | > | > | > instruments. | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | > | > | > | >>

| > | > | > | >>>I see you also post to rec.aviation. Ask those folks in there | > about | > | > | > | >>>this guy Bass. He was the ultimate rec.aviation troll. They | > used to | > | > | > | >>>call him BoBo. He was a student pilot who posted as if he were | > | > Orville | > | > | > | >>>Wright himself. | > | > | > | >>>

| > | > | > | >>>As for the DIY alarm, unless you really know how to run a wire | > | > without | > | > | > | >>>going staple gun crazy then hire an alarm company to do it. | > It's | > | > really | > | > | > | >>>not worth it on the DIY side. You save a few hundred bucks but | > lose | > | > | > | >>>precious time reading manuals and trying to figure out how to | > | > install | > | > | > | >>>the system, when for the few extra bucks someone who knows what | > | > they | > | > | > | >>>are doing can have your system up and running within hours. | > | > | > | >>>Tell me what State you are in and I'll help you find a decent | > | > company. | > | > | > | >>>

| > | > | > | >>>

| > | > | > | >>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | > | >>>

| > | > | > | >>>

| > | > | > | >>>>One of my neighbors was probably in the house, or at least her | > | > | > daughter | > | > | > | >>>>who has a drug problem. Thats one of my problems. | > | > | > | >>>>The other neighbor doesn't have much visability to my entrance | > | > ways. | > | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>Your probably right on the monitoring service. I'll look into | > it!! | > | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>Thanks | > | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>Dave | > | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>Mr.Double-sided tape wrote: | > | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>Where were the neighbors during the burglary? | > | > | > | >>>>>Check their next tag sale and you'll see everything you are | > | > missing. | > | > | > | >>>>>I'm not one to gossip but word on the street says the | > neighbors | > | > have | > | > | > | >>>>>been casing your crib since the day you moved in. | > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>Whatever alarm system you choose to have installed make sure | > it | > | > is | > | > | > | >>>>>monitored! | > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | > | >>>>>

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| > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>Frank Olson wrote: | > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>> snipped-for-privacy@test.com wrote: | > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Hi, | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>I need a security system and have been looking at the | > Ademco | > | > | > LNXRPK, | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Visionx PowerMax, Napco P3200 and DSC PC5020. | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>The house is two stories about 1800 sqft with about 20 | > | > windows. I | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>figured that two motion alarms with wireless entrance | > alarms | > | > for | > | > | > the | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>two downstairs entrances would cover most of the house. | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Also I would like to have a smoke alarm and a wireless | > remote | > | > | > siren. | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>I'm not going to have the system monitored at this point, | > but | > | > will | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>have it call me or my neighbors when an alarm gets | > detected. | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Any of the above mentioned systems standout better than | > the | > | > | > others? | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Is there another system I should look at? | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Thanks in advance! | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>Dave | > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>Scroll up a little and have a look at the thread about "DIY | > | > | > | >>>>>>>recommendations requested". | > | > | > | >>>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>>Frank Olson | > | > | > | >>>>>>>

formatting link
| > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>Frank, | > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>i saw the thread, but it didn't address my needs. | > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>From What I've seen only Ademco has a wireless keypad, but | > it | > | > | > doesn't | > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>have a cabinet for the CPU. | > | > | > | >>>>>>I'm new at this, just had my house burglerized this week and | > | > looking | > | > | > for | > | > | > | >>>>>>a solution. | > | > | > | >>>>>>I need pretty much wireless everything. No basement or | > | > availablity | > | > | > to | > | > | > | >>>>>>the attic for wiring. The mounting of the CPU and keypad in | > | > | > different | > | > | > | >>>>>>sides of the house. | > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>I wish I had more flexability for more of a hybrid system. | > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>If I was in a single story or had a basement, i'd be in high | > | > cotton. | > | > | > | >>>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>>Dave | > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >>>>>

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | | > | |

In your case that was the best thing to do :)

I just put up a 1664 with each of the different keypads and it's not terribly bad although painfully slow

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