swapping out a keypad?

I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is not working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad it does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?

How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are there other steps that I need to do first?

Thanks in advance

Steven

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Ziggy
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Just one keypad? Any expansion zones used on it?

If no and no then yes unless a keypad compatibility number has been set.

If no and yes, yes and no, or yes and yes then some keypad setup of the keypad may be required. Also if a keypad compatibility number has been set then setup will be required.

Ask the party selling you the keypad to step you through it and you should be able to handle it.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, make sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries, keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series keypad. Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K series has an ENTER button.

Reply to
Jim

Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that after a few years of use they keys no longer work?

Reply to
Ziggy

I have hundreds of RP1CAe2 keypas in service. I don't recall replacing any with bad keys.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

I have >> >>

Reply to
Roland Moore

Sometimes. Easy and cheapest fix is to change your code so you're not using the worn out key(s).

| > > I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One | > > keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is not | > > working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad it | > > does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it | > > works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out? | >

| > > How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are | > > there other steps that I need to do first? | >

| > > Thanks in advance | >

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| > Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, make | > sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries, | > keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series keypad. | > Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the | > difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K | > series has an ENTER button. | | Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that | after a few years of use they keys no longer work? |

Reply to
Crash Gordon

I have had to replace a few keypads in places where there are a lot of smokers. The keypads seem to get a film of "ick" on and in them. Had to replace and repair floppy and CD-ROM drives on computers for the same reason back when I worked on computers.

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Bob La Londe

I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad.

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Jim

Bob, do those keypads have the little rubberbuttons with the carbon on the back to make the button circuit? I don't use the gemini panels, so i have no experience. I have used a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the circuit board and get a little more life out of the keypad. usually just enough to get a new one in and schedule a service call.

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Tommy

I've done that a time or two, but the Napco keypads take awhile to disassemble and put back together. There's a number of little pieces , LED masks, etc that all have to be lined up when you reassemble. Pain in the butt and you don't know if it's going to work or not after all the trouble of taking it apart.

A pencil eraser and a little bit of alcohol does the trick as far as cleaning the copper trace on the mylar. The problem is, it's usually the carbon that has worn away or sometimes the mylar is distorted ( I guess from pressing the keys too hard) and makes contact, without the key being depressed or it makes contact at the same time, when you push an adjacent button.

Changing the numbers seems to be the most successful recommendation. But eventually it's going to happen again.

Reply to
Jim

My step-father used to repair televisions before he retired. he used a kit of some sort to recoat the buttons on some remotes. He did say that it was more trouble than it was worth though.

I've done that a time or two, but the Napco keypads take awhile to disassemble and put back together. There's a number of little pieces , LED masks, etc that all have to be lined up when you reassemble. Pain in the butt and you don't know if it's going to work or not after all the trouble of taking it apart.

A pencil eraser and a little bit of alcohol does the trick as far as cleaning the copper trace on the mylar. The problem is, it's usually the carbon that has worn away or sometimes the mylar is distorted ( I guess from pressing the keys too hard) and makes contact, without the key being depressed or it makes contact at the same time, when you push an adjacent button.

Changing the numbers seems to be the most successful recommendation. But eventually it's going to happen again.

Reply to
Tommy

I still have 2 800's out there that are limping along...the owners are almost out of alternative keypad digit choices.

I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad.

Reply to
Crash Gordon

They've got one listed on Ebay

Reply to
Mark Leuck

Two Mag 800s? It's been a lot of years since I have seen one of those still up and working.

Reply to
Roland Moore

Geez, more dinosaurs.

I need a keyfob for Toyota RAV4 2000 RS3200 alarm..just the fob...thats what I really need right now.

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| > > > > I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One | > > > > keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is | not | > > > > working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad | it | > > > > does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it | > > > > works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out? | > >

| > > > > How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are | > > > > there other steps that I need to do first? | > >

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| > > > Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, make | > > > sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries, | > > > keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series keypad. | > > > Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the | > > > difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K | > > > series has an ENTER button. | > >

| > > Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that | > > after a few years of use they keys no longer work?- Hide quoted text - | > >

| > I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last | > as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they | > wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do | > is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code | > and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad. | >

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Crash Gordon

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Reply to
Mark Leuck

Thanks, I've been watching those...kinda steep for just needing the fob though.

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| > | > > > > I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. | > One | > | > > > > keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house | is | > | not | > | > > > > working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the | > keypad | > | it | > | > > > > does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before | > it | > | > > > > works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out? | > | > >

| > | > > > > How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or | are | > | > > > > there other steps that I need to do first? | > | > >

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| > | > > > Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, | > make | > | > > > sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries, | > | > > > keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series | > keypad. | > | > > > Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the | > | > > > difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K | > | > > > series has an ENTER button. | > | > >

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| > | > I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last | > | > as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they | > | > wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do | > | > is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code | > | > and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad. | > | >

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Crash Gordon

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