FBI XL4600RM keypad

Ask for Jim Rojas!!! He's probably got "stacks" of 'em. He also needs the space for a few more Moose keypads... :-)

Thanks for the quick reply back... he doesn't have the RM's listed on his site. we could call to find out...is there any problem using the RM with the SM? The reason I ask is the SM looks like it has a few more buttons so I was wondering if there is a problem mixing keypads..the first choice is to get another RM but will do a SM if we have too.

It's just a different mounting, SM = Surface mount and RM = recessed mount

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I realize that. as you know the SM has some auxiliary keys which the RM does not so I wanted to know if the SM & RM could coexist, for that matter could any of the other keypads such as the XK-5LC or XK406 work together with the

4600RM ? I would assume they could but I think it is best to ask since I'm only a DIY...we would like to stay with the RM but if we can't find another RM we will go with a SM or another model if it's compatible.

Most FBII panels will NOT allow both LED & LCD keypads to be used on the same system... Do yourself a BIG favor, obtain the installation manual for the panel you have, it will list the compatible keypads...

They can work together

The installation manual for my panel XL-2 list the XL4600RM , XL4600SM ,

6615 LED and 6805 LED. I installed another system for a relative a few years later with the upgraded XL-2T panel and that installation manual list those keypads above plus the XK508, XK406, XK-5LC and XK-7LC but it does say anything about only choosing certain ones to work together, however I guess that info could be buried in one of the program questions.... Since I've only seen the XL4600SM as an image on a website I was concerned because it looks like it has a few more buttons, however keeping with your line of thought since they are both LED I guess they should work together.

Thanks Mark, we will continue to look for the RM a while longer but may have to settle for the SM if the RM could not be located..

I have 2 x RM's - they were pulls but look brand new, missing the retaining ring for in the wall so you'd need to use a double cut in box or cut in ring.

Also have 1 x SM - New Old Stock - still in orig box.

Rob

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They're the same, other than being recessed. Unfortunately, the recessed models have been out of production for years. There are none available at any of the distributors (I checked a few months ago when a customer asked for one).

Regards, Robert L Bass

"A day late and a dollar short..." And another opportunity to post your sig line... *sigh*

Frank, Your compulsion to respond negatively to anything Robert posts is everybit as annoying as all of Soniduck's drivil. We all are capeable ofmaking our own observations. As a lot of us have said before, "Give it up Frank!" You have plenty to contribute making you look good here. You gain nothing carrying own your feud. Allan

I remind you that Robert's the one that called me a "liar" for pointing out the pop-up's on his site are still active (which they are). I certainly haven't been "feuding" with him. The fact that he's not willing to admit it (or apologise) in the face of all the evidence posted to the contrary by numerous individuals, just goes to show that nothing's changed. I'm reminded of Doug L's famous post. I wonder if it's time to repost it??

If we are all capable of making our own observations, then your post is redundant, as is this one of mine, but I have to ask why you feel it necessary to chide Frank but not RLB? A lot more of us have asked RLB to give it up than have asked Frank to put a sock in it yet you say nothing to RLB.

Doug L

I am not defending Robert. He creates his own persona and has to lie in the bed he makes. My point is that we all know all of the information. Years ago, any request for a manual would result in an instant reply from you to contact Jim Rojas.... who follows and participates. Jim would see the same post as you and generally would honor the request, if the requester gave a valid e-mail address. Your response was simply excess traffic on the group.

You don't enhance your credibility at all when you respond to his every post. It is reminiscent of Mike Sabadish who would post a link to the Goofy sight and republish the "testemonial" every time Robert posted. I like the group when we stay on topic. Even though I have been in the business since

1983, I learn new stuff here everyday.

Best wishes for a happy holiday season. I don't know if you saw this Thanksgiving card, but it was cool.

Doug, Robert is incorrigible. Nothing you say to him diverts him or changes the way he does things. He is so tame now compared to the "OLD" RLB. He will take on challengers, but doesn't go out of his way to be annoying. In the old days, Robert too responded to almost anything that was posted. Over the years I have also urged him to stay on topic and stop igniting/fanning the flames. Most of my correspondence to him has been to his personal e-mail address and not on the group. I have also been attacked by him. I tend to defend him more than attacking. That is more my style. If people don't challenge him, he generally doesn't respond unless it is from the small group of protagonist that he dislikes as much as they dislike him.

BTW, what difference does it make what he puts on his web site? It is no business of any of us to criticize how much he charges, how he ships or whether he has pop ups on his site or not. If Frank is worried about pop ups, then don't go to the web site! What in the world is his fascination with all that Robert does anyway? It is true that Robert has said some pretty ugly things about Frank, but it has usually been provoked. Robert hits below the belt when he fights. The lesson to be learned is not to fight with him, then you won't get hurt.

I chide Frank in hopes that he will come to his senses. He is a smart, knowledgeable guy who offers a lot and is always willing to try and help. When he isn't on Bass's ass, I enjoy what he contributes. I don't want to block him as I would be the loser. I have Paulie blocked under 45 different names. He has absolutely nothing to contribute. I am on the verge of blocking Sonic Duck except his is so off the wall and ignorant that I read him for his entertainment value. He needs to watch Joel Osteen!

Regards, Allan

He doesn't have to.

Crash, I have a call into a vendor but haven't heard anything back yet? if you could email me the price details and/or business website

TIA, whatever_45 at verizon dot net

$15.00 plus whatever the actual shipping is.

If you want one lemme know and I'll contact you via email.

Rob

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