I've fubared the system through the keypad initially (as some probably already know). When I did this, the two other keypads which access additional EZM's are not in the system.
Not certain how to get them back into the system.
Thanks once again.
If you have the software and are able to connect to the panel it's fairly easy. Call and I'll walk you through it.
Thank you all for your comments!
Robert, it was a pleasure speaking with you on the phone. You have outstanding consumer support!
After our conversation, I DID as you supected found another EZM 8 tucked up away from the alarm panel in a ceiling!!!
I've got a few things I need to attend to this evening (wife reminded me of course of things that are on the "honey do list"...lol so I get in touch with you tomorrow if possible.
For anyone who needs assistance, this board can be of great service as many of you guys seem very knowlegable.
Robert has been more then helpful and willing to work with me throught any confusion I've had. I HIGHLY recommend his services!!!
Steve
Thanks for the kind words, Steve. Feel free to call again if you need more help.
standing consumer support!
up away from the alarm panel in a ceiling!!!
of course of things that are on the "honey do list"...lol so I get in touch= with you tomorrow if possible.
ny of you guys seem very knowlegable. =A0
y confusion I've had. =A0I HIGHLY recommend his services!!!
Just what the FUCK is going on here?
Maybe we should all just refrain from posting here and we'll just let you and Bass make f****ng kissy kissy for the rest of the goddamned week .... for Christ sakes!
If you want to leave him messages FUCKING E - MAIL HIM .
Jeeeeesus f****ng Christ already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why don't ya read the f****ng manual and go the f*ck someplace else and get your free information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God DAMMIT to FUCKING HELL ALREADY.
YEH SURE " I don't wanna fight anymore" MY ASS!
outstanding consumer support!
away from the alarm panel in a ceiling!!!
course of things that are on the "honey do list"...lol so I get in touch with you tomorrow if possible.
of you guys seem very knowlegable.
confusion I've had. HIGHLY recommend his services!!!
Heh, heh, heh....
Everybody was waiting for you to answer that one!
This gentleman posted here asking for help. I helped him. He posted a thank you note. Big deal.
Since he found me here in ASA, he apparently thought it appropriate to say thankyou here as well. People do it all the time and no one seems to mind. In fact, some folks pay very close attention to who receives thanks from whom.
He had the manuals but they weren't enough to figure out what was wrong with his system. That's why he asked for help here. Usenet is free (well, if you don't count the cost of Internet access) to anyone who wants to use it.
I don't see this gentleman's posting a note of thanks as wasting precious bandwidth anywhere near as much as say, a discussion of "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious." BTW, my mother thought the pun you posted on that was pretty funny.
I didn't post the thankyou note. He did. :^) I've been careful not to offend you lately but that doesn't mean you get to decide who else posts or what they can say.
You guys are rough.
I'm not certain of the age-group of some of you, but some are acting like little kids. If your attempt is to defame a person's character, what you end up looking like is an ass. I really don't care to hear about someone's dirty laundry or events in life?this isn't what the board should be about.
If some of you guys have an issue with me making a public comment pertaining to an alarm question, then don't read it. My return comments were courteous and appropriate. Others took the time to answer a few questions I've had; the least I could do is thank them. I've noticed some of the negative comments to Robert, I've certainly have nothing but positive things to say and would (and will continue) to recommend his assistance with any of my colleagues.
Some of you were nice enough to help, ?others, if you have nothing nice to say, why bother?
I'm not looking for "free" advice, I don't mind paying for help when needed...doesn't this group exist for discussion of alarm systems and troubleshooting?? Some of you should be in alt.binaries.gossip (if it exists)
Once again?I had some questions, some were eager to help; Robert went WELL above and beyond and provided me with some very helpful information. I thought it was a nice gesture to comment to someone who actually reads this and wants/needs assistance with his/her system whereas they have somewhere to go.
?The low-number of posters in here may be a direct result of seeing bullying gossip comments of a few select members where new posters are not interested in reading. I can assure you I am not pleased to see some of these posters comments.
These guys aren't rough. No one has lost body parts. For the most part they have become familiar with the most direct ways to annoy each other in the shortest time span possible. Whenever the boredom becomes unbearable, someone will toss in a grenade and tempers flare. At first it all seems immature, shocking, irritating etc., only because you aren't in tune with the true purpose many have for posting here. It simply is a form of entertainment in the end. The guys posting here don't need the technical challenges presented here, like it's another crossword puzzle they get to work on. They do that all day every day, and for money. They just do this for fun. An odd sort of fun to be sure, but harmless fun. To each his own. They aren't trying to impress anyone with technical their prowess, or improve the industry's image, or anything else that is necessarily "customer friendly". That only happens accidentally when it happens. If you want to push a test button, merely mention how much you hate the French or love Israel and see what you scare up. If you're new to the group RLB has been having a bit of a tough time lately. I can tell that some hair is starting to grow again somewhere, so perhaps he will be back to his old self soon enough. Despite your limited experience, RLB can be quite the gadfly, and can with great alacrity get many here in a near homicidal rage. They in turn wish him a rapid and unpleasant trip to the netherworld. You might not like it here, but that sideshow along with detailed security information is not on the bill of fare many other places. No amount of scolding or reason is likely to change the dynamic that keeps the posts coming. For my own reasons I continue to post, if only to confirm the suspicion many have here that I am simply too stupid to quit posting.
"Steve" wrote in message news:3cfae$4611e560$438c3340$ snipped-for-privacy@ALLTEL.NET...
On Apr 3, 12:25=EF=BF=BDam, Steve wrote:
Nah ...... we're not rough.
Here's an example of "rough"
The fact is, ...........this is NOT a DIY group. It is a group set up for the use of alarm contractors to talk about business matters. Contrary to Steve Ryckman's (the founder of this group) intentions, and the group FAQ, Bass, promotes his website and exploits this group and the trade experience of it's participants, for the sole purpose of making a profit here. If he were to simply state in his sig line that he had an on line store and perhaps occasionally refer someone to his site, that would be acceptable. However, he continuously lies about himself as still being in the installation business. He's stolen information from people here and from other sources and doesn't give credit or lies as if it is of his origin. He constantly berates installing companies, encompassing all, into his deriding remarks. His conduct and attitude is demeaning towards any who object to what he does here ............. and he simply refuses to stop. Therefore, the choices for those who choose to be here ...... are ........ let him do his dirty deeds and stay silent while he insults individuals ( calling installers idiots, monkeys, stupid .......... and installation companies (frauds, thieves, swindlers). Or,................. object to his unacceptable conduct. Many would say that this mess exists simply because of something that has escalated to this point. What isn't so apparent, is that in past newsgroups, Bass has been forcibly removed by consensus of the entire list of participants, for doing the same exact thing that he does here in this group. He lied, stole information, went real life to get people who opposed him in trouble with their employers and told lies to people about his detractors. It's all documented in Google. Every thing that he does here in ASA, he's done in other groups. So it's not just simply an isolated "circumstance", as someone like yourself might assume .... In fact, it's a pattern of behavior that Bass has acted out over many many years in Usenet. So this just makes what he does here ever so much more objectionable. He obviously does it intentionally! INTENTIONALLY!
The casual participant, such as yourself, has no idea of what this deranged individual methodically does here and what his nefarious past or intentions are. To you, for the brief time that you are here, you simply see a snapshot of his fraudulent persona, and think that there is no reasoning behind the actions of his detractors. He shows his best side only for the short interludes that end users come here looking for information. He depends upon their short stay to appear to be the benevolent provider of anything that they need, so as to entice them to buy from him. When those that have been the brunt of his insidious "Mr Hyde" persona object and berate him for what he's done to this group, the short timers think the worst of the detractors and cant understand why someone who is so helpful, should be "attacked" in such a fashion.
Now, to support all of this .........along with all of his reprehensible conduct in Usenet.........there's the story behind the story. After all of his ongoing criticisms of individuals who oppose his conduct here, there lies the amazing tale of his personal life that has been exposed.
If you add to all of the above, what has been revealed ( and he has confirmed) about the abnormal behavior that represents his personal life, you get the picture of a truly demented individual who's purposeful and obvious intent, is to cause chaos and disruption where ever he goes and no concern for others. How many people do you know who are responsible for the death of someone through negligence? How many people do you know who are a convicted felon for pulling a gun on someone? Just those two items alone, makes it obvious to any normal person, that you're not dealing with someone who has the faculties or character to make socially acceptable decisions. Now put this all together and tell me if you think someone like this should even be allowed to be involved in the "security industry" much less be accepted, with out objection to this group ............... or ....in fact by anyone, in general? He's a downright social misfit.
Once knowing all of this, it's got to be quite clear that what exists here, is happening because this is what Bass instigates and what he chooses to happen, by his intentional refusal and inability to get along with others. The people who object to his conduct are individuals who just downright refuse to let him usurp this group with his proven deranged conduct, without any objection. As it turns out, it gets down to ............ if, by his conduct, he can disrupt this group, then what's to stop anyone else from doing the same damn thing as he does? So far, he hasn't caused anyone to go real life with him, but I feel that someday, it's possible that he's going to do something to the "wrong" person and they'll take him up on his provocations. In the mean time, we who believe strongly that what Bass does here is wrong, will continue to object to his conduct. And those that object to his behavior ( mostly all here *do* object) but choose to sit silently by the wayside, will continue to enable him, even though they know that if he were to be continuously discredited by the entire group, with the people he solicits to buy products here, it would defeat his sole purpose for being here. But ........... even though they know he could be ousted, they choose to do nothing and thereby enable him ........... and therefore the group will remain in chaos. That's their call.
So be it. Bass is wrong in what he does here and his past history in Usenet and in his personal life, attest to his continued pattern of disruption of other peoples lives ........... no matter where he is. In this medium of Usenet he can get away with things that he wouldn't dare do in real life. Therefore, here, he will always find resistance and objection to his conduct and there will be chaos. He's obviously quite aware of what he does. Just like a dog that knows it's going to be whipped if it barks. It still barks because whipping is the only attention it can get and it's better than none at all. It's obviously his goal to be the outstanding individual. With a personal background such as his, it is manifest that he can't have any self esteem so he gets his attention by being the cause disruption. This is bolstered by his documented history, that indicates that he is compelled to always create a scene, good or bad, where he is the center of attention,
The above is only a small portion of the entire chronicle that could be written about this deranged individual and his outlandish conduct and history. And unfortunately, because of his ill treatment of people here, for a very long time, the people that come here for advice are of secondary importance to discrediting him. If there's ever anything that I can do to stop Bass from getting one penny in profit from his unacceptable behavior here, I will do it. Any altruism that anyone would feel by the help I, or anyone else would be inclined to give someone who comes here, is totally negated by the fact that Bass will benefit from it, by being able to capitalize on the information given freely and thereby make a profit at the expense of what others give away graciously.
I have nothing to gain or lose here. I'm not here to make a profit and I was smart enough to keep my identity anonymous, so Bass can't go real life with me as he has stated that he actually likes to do with people, who object to his conduct. I will disrupt this group whenever I can, in anyway that I can, as long as Bass does what he does to disrupt this group. If his conduct is disrupting the group, and there are people who wont object to it, then what difference does my conduct make? They can't rightly object to my conduct without objecting to what Bass does. Why should only one person have the prerogative to do whatever they damn well please? If one disrupts the group intentionally, then others can do the same. The group will be none the worse and it provides a continuous example to the "do nothings" that what they do enables Bass as well as anyone else who chooses to cause chaos. Again, their call.
For what he does to this potentially great gathering of people and this group, he's a scumbag and rotten son of a bitch and deserves anything bad that could happen to him. His conduct in his personal life and in Usenet depicts his unconcern about others. Unfortunately for him, that attitude of unconcern has trickled over to his personal well being. He's recently experienced a heart problem, likely due to his inability to control his eating habits as he is also unable to control his life. After his insults to one of the participants in this Newsgroup ( one of his on-line competitors, by the way) about his overweight problem, it was discovered that Bass himself is an obese, fat slob. This after him telling us that he had lost weight, was exercising and bike riding for health reasons. Just another example of his propensity to deceive people. It is sincerely hoped that this heart problem will also be his demise. It can't happen too soon. He's burned his bridges and it would be only just to see the bridge in front of him come crashing down, just as he was crossing. Which, by the way will happen shortly when his cancer finally catches up with him, which won't be long now.
There are nice people in this world and not so nice people. Bass doesn't even come close to being included in the category of .............. people. By his history and his example, it's evident that he's a grotesque and repulsive facade of a human being, seething with hatred for himself and everyone around him. He deserves to be treated with no more consideration than piece of shit.and should be the object of hatred by the hundred or so people that he has insulted, mocked, humiliated, ridiculed and lied about in Usenet. He should get back all that he gives here in ASA, twofold .......... and he will.
No you're absolutely right. YOU didn't post it but you instigated it. You promoted it. You are the cause of it.
This "I don't want to fight anymore" seems suspiciously familiar. As a matter of fact it it exactly like your idea of "making peace" that you offered a few years ago.
Here's how it goes. Everyone is going to stop saying nasty things about you and you're going to continue doing all the things that make people say nasty things to you.
In this case however, your just not going to say nasty things back, as often, maybe, except maybe for a few times ...... here and there. And when you feel like it. And when you find someone might be vulnerable. And when you feel like it .... again. And, well maybe a few times more and .......... more ...... and
If you'd have been tending to your business in the first place and answered this end users E-mail and telephone calls, he wouldn't have come here to have to use this forum as a Bass message board. Nor would he have had to ask his questions here. YOU could have taken care of this to begin with. Yet again, if you weren't exploiting this Newsgroup and the installers for whom this group was set up for ...... it wouldn't happen at all. And I wouldn't be writing this FUCKING note about it either.
If you're weren't advertising your business every time and end user shows up to ask a question, this wouldn't be happening AT ALL.
So don't think that just because you say you "don't want to fight anymore" that you're going to continue doing all the things that CAUSE the fights and no one is going to say anything about it. It just aint gonna happen ...... con man.
If you "don't want to fight anymore" then you'd DAMN well better stop doing the things that create the situations that cause the "fights".
Ahhhhh,
I see that there is another attribute to this "I don't want to fight anymore" mantra and ephipany of yours.
When someone calls you exactly what you are a w**re mongering arrogant bastard who's really not concerned about "not fighting anymore" but more concerned about selling his business to end users, in a installers Newsgroup
You just don't have the balls to respond anymore! Now I get it.
Now that your on your death bed, you've got more important things to think about, right? But intruding upon the people of this Newsgroup is still ok. Is that it? And "we're" the ones who're not supposed to fight anymore while you continue to do what ever you damn well please.
Yeah, sure.
Thankfully we don't have that much longer to wait.
Hows the new tumor?
Put my name on it ..... will ya?
Oh ..... and f*ck off too.
I doubt that he would name a tumor for you, but I bet he could be talked into naming a hemorrhoid or two after you.
Ahhhhh,
I see that there is another attribute to this "I don't want to fight anymore" mantra and ephipany of yours.
When someone calls you exactly what you are a w**re mongering arrogant bastard who's really not concerned about "not fighting anymore" but more concerned about selling his business to end users, in a installers Newsgroup
You just don't have the balls to respond anymore! Now I get it.
Now that your on your death bed, you've got more important things to think about, right? But intruding upon the people of this Newsgroup is still ok. Is that it? And "we're" the ones who're not supposed to fight anymore while you continue to do what ever you damn well please.
Yeah, sure.
Thankfully we don't have that much longer to wait.
Hows the new tumor?
Put my name on it ..... will ya?
Oh ..... and f*ck off too.
He's not enough of a PITA for that.
Coming from him it would be a compliment. You see, when a piece of shit sees a hemorrhoid, it's looking up at it.
And since you actually made the observation, ...... well .....
You get the point.
I'm sure you'll let me know about it in a 1000 words or more. Never the less, he's gonna die pretty soon and what more can we hope for.
Just think, then we'll only have to tolerate you until you get bored with all of this mundane stuff that regular folks talk about.
Here's looking down at cha.
Your favorite hemorrhoid!
Oh and just in case you didn't get it ........ you can f*ck off too.
Well, you've been saying that for a lot of years and it just doesn't make any difference any more does it.
You'll be gone and I'll still be here. That's all that counts.
You lose. I win.
So you see, YOU're the one who'll no longer be the pain in the ass. Ain't that just grand.
Supercalafragilisticexpealadocious dum deedel deedel dee, dum deedle dee!
Sometimes we are all tempted to go out >> >Hows the new tumor?
Safer? Meaning what?
Showing? Just "Showing?
Hmmmm. I guess I'll have to make my feelings a little more obvious. Thanks for the feedback.
As far as boredom goes, I
Well, as usual you're "thinking" isn't too accurate.
Actually I said absolutely nothing to him or about him once he said he "didn't want to fight anymore" I have to admit that I stupidly thought that he was going to curtail doing the things that everyone has held him in contempt for all these years. He came back from his trip, or his relapse and stopped using his nasty nicknames for people and wasn't responding to some of the others who jumped on his case, immediately upon his return. I figured, hey, he's going to give it a try, due to his "ephipany" or whatever, so ...... lets' see if we can finally end this. Well wadaya know. He's at it again with the dogging every end user who comes here to go to his website. He encouraging or at least not trying to stop someone from using this Newsgroup for his personal message board ........ And when someone calls him on it ....... HE"S the one who gets his shorts in a bunch?
Nahhhhhh! now it's just the same ol crap that he's pulled before. Everyone please be nice and I'll be nice but I'll still do the same shit that I always do and you wont say anything about it ...... and we'll call it peace.
Nope ..... aint gonna happen. He's exploiting existanceof this Newsgroup and knowledge of the people in this gathering, to make a profit. NOT going to happen with out every imagineable objection I can muster in this forum. If he can disrupt this Newsgroup, than it is within the province of anyone else to choose to do the same thing.
Here's the gist of it. You decide to live in a certain town. But every time you walk down the street there's this one person who sticks his finger in your eye. You've got the choice of moving out of town or taking whatever action you deem is necessary to combat the SOB. After sticking his finger in your eye 100 or so times, in spite of your objections, after awhile, it doesn't make any difference at all if he promises that he's not going to do it anymore. You're still going to do whatever you can whenever you can to get him. And regardless, If you can or can't ..... do or don't ...... you hope he dies.
Mean>> >> >Hows the new tumor?
For the record, I never said anything about a truce. I never offered anything to Jim or anyone else. All I said (and still say) is I'm not interested in fighting with him or anyone else. No epiphany, no visions, nothing but a decision to concentrate on what is important to me.
Now as to the current flame-fest, it seems kind of silly to me. A gentleman came here asking for help. I helped him out and he posted a thank you. Jim objects to people saying thanks to me though he takes no offense at people thanking others. I figure no matter what I say or do Jim will find an excuse to flame. That's on him. It's not my problem.
You're welcome to continue trying to reason with him but I doubt you'll get anywhere. He seems to actually believe that I've done all the things he accuses me of. He's said it so many times that he's convinced himself. Oh, well.
As to suggesting people visit my website, that's my privilege. Jim never objects when anyone else, including Mssrs. Rojas and Olson make the same suggestion. I figure it has nothing to do with the content of the suggestion nor that of the website. It's all about Jim's anger toward me and anyone who refuses to join him. That's unfortunate but there's nothing I can do about it so why bother trying?
What I said still holds though. I don't want to fight with Jim or any of the others who routinely post unprovoked flames. What they may choose to do is on them.
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