Moose/Sentol

Check with Jim Rojas I sent him several over the year.

Check with Jim Rojas I sent him several over the year.

Ok, Jim?? You in there??

Sorry. I traded those out at least a year ago. I can ask around.

Jim Rojas Technical Manuals Online!

Jim,

At this point put that thought on hold. The better solution here is to upgrade. However the customer needs to be convinced. Thanks, I will let you know if a world wide search is necessary.

Les

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Its a shame they trashed the Moose line those where good hard working panels.

"nick markowitz" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : snipped-for-privacy@j30g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...

As boat anchor, they were doing an amazing job ;-)

Isn't it amazing how some people think that the panel they use will walk on water and ANY thing else is a boat anchor. Now for those that want to banter the above statement, please refrain from doing so. It is not worth your time since I am not going to respond to the silliness.

BTW my customer decided that we need to upgrade the system since the old Z2000 has served us well for the past 12 years or so, but, now it is gone.

Have a good weekend.

Les

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That may have been the case and a ton of them are still out there however they were late to to come out with updated product and when they did (the ZX line) didn't really have anything that anyone else did better.

And this from someone who loved programming the old Z900s

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That is for the best, their download software was a joke.

Wade knew how to make a panel.. mpi-330, mpi335, mpi-775, mpi-25, mpi-26, mpi-50, z700, z900, z1100, z1100v2, z1100e...

many tks Wade, they were quality panels that did the job....

We've got a couple dozen still doing a problem free job. (and yes to all you nay sayers, they work fine, just like the day they were first installed..)

RTS

I still have a couple Z1100 out there working as well as an ademco

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Yeah ... I've got some jobs out there like that also and I too wonder what some alarm tech is going to think some day in the far future when he comes accross a 602 mat coupler, an ultrasonic motion detector and toggle switches by doors and windows for shunts. I've talked to some of the younger techs and they truly believe that audio glass break detectors are better than foil ..... BECAUSE THEY DON'T FALSE ALARM !!!! I guess the saying is true .... If you tell a lie often enough, it eventually becomes the truth.

You have made your cursory check. Now just tell the customer the panel is no longer made, and you checked to see if anybody had any still in stock. Add on that an upgrade would be far superior if only in that you can support it. If they want you to search all over heck and do MORE work to save them a few dollars then let them go.

Already past that point in time......................................... Just had to write up a report for the Insurance Co. Just have to wait see what happens.

Les

I guess the saying is true .... If you tell a lie often

RHC: Hey !! That's how the gun haters manage to pass laws didn't you know. That's how they managed to dupe the public into keeping the long gun registry up here in Canada.

I just read something about the registry up your way. Isn't it up for a final vote. Or did that happen already?

That is ..... final vote to do away with the registry.

RHC: No, the Private Members bill to do away with the long gun registry was NOT passed. A lot of back room arm twisting by the Liberals (Democrats), and a lot of lies by the anti-gunner groups, misrepresentation of statistics, loads of tearful pleas by the relations of the women shot during the Dawson college massacre, turned enough gutless MP's to keep the registry 153 votes to 151.

I've never seen such a miserable display of lies, misrepresented statistics, and partisan politics in my life. This has only strengthened the resolve of gun owners to make a major election issue of this next time around. The Conservative government (like your Republicans) is firm in their resolve to get rid of this "white elephant" but it may or may not happen after the next election. If the Conservatives get in with a majority government, they will have the voting power to get rid of it for good. If the left wing Liberals get in, not only will we have the continuation of this very dangerous piece of legislation , but they have sworn to ban all handguns and semi-automatic firearms as well (the lack of real logic on this simply boggles the mind....)

The long gun registry is ONLY there to ensure that some future government will have the ultimate ability to ban all firearms from the hands of law abiding people !! This is one of the stated goals of the UN. The anti-gunners are not intellectually honest enough to admit this, but I've been in this business long enough to know it's true. And even if it weren't their intent, why would politicians leave gun owners in a position where some future government can do this on a whim.

Look at England and Australia if you don't believe confiscation CAN happen. Politicians simply can't be trusted to vote with reason when emotion sways voters right or wrong. The Conservative government will now have millions of gun owners voting for them, and raising funds for them, based on this issue alone. I, like millions of other gun owners, am now a criminal by dint of the fact that my paperwork is not complete, and all my firearms are now subject to confiscation with no compensation whatsoever, AND the police have the legal power to enter my home WITHOUT A WARRANT on suspicion only that there are unregistered firearms present.

Any one who doesn't see this as dangerous legislation is simply an idiot !!

Sorry to hear that. I thought for sure it was a gone-er this time.

Three stinking votes!!!!!!!!!!!

RHC: Yup, the Liberals forced their MP's to vote the party line since it was a previous Liberal government that voted in this s*it. The other minority party the New Democrats allowed a "free vote" by their MP's but months of back room arm twisting forced just enough of their MP's to change course to save the registry. Had all this politicing not gone on, it would have passed easily....

I think that the Liberal and New Democrat MP's that clearly voted against their constituents wishes may have committed political suicide. The Conservatives will be using this as an election platform in the next election hoping to win seats.

Politics aside, you have to ask yourself if this registry is such a good thing, and so useful to police as they claim (at least the top politically oriented echelon, but decidedly NOT the rank and file cops), then why is it that only five of the 10 provinces will even enforce it even though they are required to do so for all Federal legislation including the criminal code ? Why are the majority of gun owners against it ? Why is the current compliance rate with the registry hovering somewhere between 30 to 50% even in the urban provinces that do enforce it.? Why are all outdoor and Indian groups unanimously against it ? Why are all women's and related groups for it ? It's all in the perception of its perceived "good" while no one is concerned a whit about it's dangers !!

The real, somewhat hidden reason they want the registry, is the powers that be would much rather see the complete banishing of all firearms from the hands of the citizenry, when all is said and done. They dare not admit it publicly, nor do they have to, as long as they can nickel and dime our rights away one small step at a time. If some future Liberal government decides to ban handguns and semi-automatics, guess where they'll get the names and addresses of those who have them !!

Canadians are sheep by and large. We've had it so good for so long, we fail to see the ever present dangers of poorly conceived legislation by flyweight politicians, that erodes personal freedoms of any kind. Hey !!!...it doesn't affect me, so I don't care if it hurts your interest, right ? Wrong !!!!!!!!!....you only get the kind of government you deserve as a people.

It'll be a frosty Friday in hell before I willingly give up my target guns (long or short....)