Roland, I've started a new thread for this response to your ill advised post.
Roland Moore wrote:
Roland, in all your verbal diarrhea, that you disguise, in verbose, comments, I think that it's time that you get the education that you're lacking. And also learn that you're not the only one who can write endlessly about a piece of shit like Bass. I really hate to retread ground that has been trod so many times in this Newsgroup but you just gotta be put down.
I've participated in this group coming up on about 10 years now. Since day one, Bass has been the bane of this Newsgroup. As boring as it may be to those who've seen and read this literally hundreds of times, I'm about to see if you can read as long and arduously as you can write.
The fact is, ...........contrary to Steve Ryckman's (the founder of this group) intentions, and the group FAQ, Bass, promotes his website and exploits this group and the trade experience of it's participants, for the sole purpose of making a profit here. If he were to simply state in his sig line that he had an on line store and perhaps occasionally refer someone to his site, that would be acceptable. However, he continuously lies about himself as still being in the installation business. He has contradicted himself dozens of times about how long he's been in this industry, which indicates that he is lying. There's some evidence that he lied on his alarm license application in New England about the fact that he is a felon. Although he insists that he could get a license to install in Florida, there are participants here that are in a position to know that he can't. Therefore, if he can't get a license in Florida because he's a felon and Connecticut, has the same laws, how did he get away with installing there? He's stolen information from people here and from other sources and doesn't give credit or lies as if it is of his origin. He constantly berates installing companies, encompassing all, into his deriding remarks. He constantly derides installers and every bad thing that a few may do, he depicts it as if all installation companies practice the same bad tactics. This, obviously to convince people that they should buy from him rather than have a system installed. His conduct and attitude is demeaning towards any who object to what he does here ............. and he simply refuses to stop. Therefore, the choices for those who choose to be here ...... are ........ let him do his dirty deeds and stay silent while he insults individuals ( calling installers idiots, monkeys, stupid .......... and installation companies (frauds, thieves, swindlers). Or,................. object to his unacceptable conduct. Many would say that this mess exists simply because of something that has escalated to this point. What isn't so apparent, is that in past Newsgroups, Bass has been forcibly removed by consensus of the entire list of participants, for doing the very same exact thing that he does here in this group. He lied, stole information, went real life to get people who opposed him in trouble with their employers and told lies to people about his detractors. It's all documented in Google. Every thing that he does here in ASA, he's done in other groups. So it's not just simply an isolated "circumstance", as someone like yourself might assume .... In fact, it's a pattern of behavior that Bass has acted out over many many years in Usenet. So this just makes what he does here ever so much more objectionable. He obviously does it intentionally! INTENTIONALLY! This is part of the education that you're lacking Roland.
The casual participant has no idea of what this deranged individual methodically does here and what his nefarious past or intentions are. To you, for the brief time that you've been here, you simply see a snapshot of his fraudulent persona, and think that there is no reasoning behind the actions of his detractors. He shows his best side only for the short interludes that end users come here looking for information. He depends upon their short stay to appear to be the benevolent provider of anything that they need, so as to entice them to buy from him. When those that have been the brunt of his insidious "Mr Hyde" persona object and berate him for what he's done to this group, the short timers think the worst of the detractors and cant understand why someone who is so helpful, should be "attacked" in such a fashion. Have you noticed that there is not one person who will vouch for his decency? .... his integrity? his trustworthiness? NOT ONE! You will also notice that of all the things that you are about to read ( and hopefully you will take the exceptionally long time to read it) That Bass nor anyone else will not ..... actually CAN-not deny the truth of one word of it.
Now, to support all of this .........along with all of his reprehensible conduct in Usenet.........there's the story behind the story. After all of his ongoing criticisms of individuals who oppose his conduct here, there lies the amazing tale of his personal life that has been exposed.
If you preface all that you will read with what has been revealed ( and he has confirmed) about the abnormal behavior that represents his personal life, you will get the picture of a truly demented individual who's purposeful and obvious intent, is to cause chaos and disruption where ever he goes and no concern for others. Roland? How many people do you know who are responsible for the death of someone through negligence? How many people do you know who are a convicted felon for pulling a gun on someone? Just those two items alone, makes it obvious to any normal person, that you're not dealing with someone who has the faculties or character to make socially acceptable decisions. Now put this together with what you are about to read and then you can decide if you think someone like this should even be allowed to be involved in the "security industry" much less be accepted, without objection to this group ............... or ....in fact by anyone, in general. He's a downright social misfit.
Once knowing what this demented misfit has consistently done to people for years , it's got to be quite clear that what the conditions and the feelings that exist here in ASA, is happening because this is what Bass instigates and what he chooses to happen, by his intentional refusal and inability to get along with others. The people who object to his conduct are individuals who just downright refuse to let him usurp this group with his proven deranged conduct, without any objection. As it turns out, it gets down to ............ if, by his conduct, he can disrupt this group, then what's to stop anyone else from doing the same damn thing as he does? So far, he hasn't caused anyone to go real life with him, but I feel that someday, it possible that he's going to do something to the "wrong" person and they'll take him up on his provocations, that he'll "bash their head in". In the mean time, we who believe strongly that what Bass does here is wrong, will continue to object to his conduct. And those that don't outwardly object to his behavior ( mostly all here *do* object but some choose to sit silently by the wayside,) will continue to enable him, even though they know that if he were to be continuously discredited by the entire group, with the people he solicits to buy products here, it would defeat his sole purpose for being here. But ........... even though they know he could be ousted, they choose to do nothing and thereby enable him ........... and therefore the group will remain in chaos. That's their call. I will continue to object and be the cause of disruption here as long as he is. As long as he chooses to instigate trouble, I will instigate more. As long as he continues to poke and prod, I will poke and prod more and harder. Get it?
So be it. Bass is wrong in what he does here and his past history in Usenet and in his personal life, attest to his continued pattern of disruption of other peoples lives ........... no matter where he is. In this medium of Usenet he can get away with things that he wouldn't dare do in real life, where he would be promptly knocked on his fat ass.. Therefore, here, he will always find resistance and objection to his conduct and there will be chaos. He's obviously quite aware of what he does. Just like a dog that knows it's going to be whipped if it barks. It still barks because whipping is the only attention it can get and it's better than none at all. It's obviously his goal to be the outstanding individual. With a personal background such as his, it is manifest that he can't have any self esteem so he gets his attention by being the cause disruption. This is bolstered by his documented history, that indicates that he is compelled to always create a scene, good or bad, where he is the center of attention,
The above is only a small portion of the entire chronicle that could be written about this deranged individual and his outlandish conduct and history. And unfortunately, because of his ill treatment of people here, for a very long time, the people that come here for advice are of secondary importance to discrediting him. If there's ever anything that I can do to stop Bass from getting one penny in profit from his unacceptable behavior here, I will do it. Any altruism that anyone would feel by the help I, or anyone else would be inclined to give someone who comes here, is totally negated by the fact that Bass will benefit from it, by being able to capitalize on the information given freely by everyone else and thus he makes a profit at the expense of what others give away graciously.
I have nothing to gain or lose here. I'm not here to make a profit and I was smart enough to keep my identity anonymous, so Bass can't go real life with me as he has stated that he actually likes to do with people, who object to his conduct. He has stalked Frank and I and others for years to no avail. But you can be sure if he were to find out where and who we were, there would be anonymous phone calls to vendors, suppliers, neighbors, relatives and anyone he could locate to lie and try to discredit our personal and business lives. And by the way, your threats are worthless and meaningless also. What you or anyone thinks about me is of no importance. If you don't like what I say or do, that's your problem. I will continue to do what I deem the son of a bitch deserves. To paraphrase a quote from Bass when confronted with someone like you, objecting to his behavior "you don't run this group. You can't tell anyone here what to do. If you don't like that, you're welcome to leave." Just so you know, in another world I would never even consider saying that to anyone here. Bass likes to think of ASA as his private little sandbox and he doesn't like it that I play in it rougher than he does.
Therefore, I will disrupt this group whenever I can, in anyway that I can, as long as Bass does what he does to disrupt this group. If his conduct is disrupting the group, and there are people who wont object to it, then what difference does my conduct make? They can't rightly object to my conduct with out objecting to what Bass does and has done to this group. Why should only one person have the prerogative to do whatever they damn well please? If one disrupts the group intentionally, then others can do the same. The group will be none the worse and it provides a continuous example to the "do nothings" that in not objecting to Bass simply enables him ..... as well as anyone else who chooses to cause chaos. Again, it's their call.
For what he does to this potentially great gathering of people and this group, he's a scumbag and rotten son of a bitch and deserves anything bad that could happen to him. His conduct in his personal life and in Usenet depicts his unconcern about others. Unfortunately for him, that attitude of unconcern has trickled over to his personal well being. He's experienced a heart problem, likely due to his inability to control his eating habits as he is also unable to control his life and now recently he's contracted cancer. Oh yes, and that brings to mind one of his finer moments. After his insults to one of the participants in this Newsgroup ( one of his on-line competitors, by the way) about his overweight problem, it was accidently discovered that Bass himself is an obese, fat slob. This after him telling us that he had lost weight, was exercising and bike riding for health reasons. Just another example of his propensity to deceive people. I sincerely hope that either his heart problem or cancer will be his demise. It can't happen too soon. He's burned his bridges and it would be only just to see the bridge in front of him come crashing down, just as he was crossing.
There are nice people in this world and not so nice people. Bass doesn't even come close to being included in the category of .............. people. By his history and his example in Usenet, it's evident that he's a grotesque and repulsive facade of a human being, seething with hatred for himself and everyone around him. He deserves to be treated with no more consideration than piece of shit. and should be the object of hatred by the hundreds of people that he has insulted, mocked, humiliated, ridiculed and lied about in Usenet. He should get back all that he gives here in ASA, twofold .......... and now it's a sure thing that he will.
Let me show you some of the posts from people who've been repulsed by the very stench of his existence. I'll post them separately to make it easier reading.