No problem...whenever you have time.
"Allan Waghalter" wrote in message news:Sa9Bf.3398$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net... |I got busy. Will answer when things slow down a bit... | Allan | | | "Crash Gordon" wrote in message | news:wTYAf.86$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net... | > I'm witchya on that. I was just curious as to what Allan meant. | > A lot of times clients *think* they want some feature and then end up | > never | > ever never using it. | >
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| > "Mark Leuck" wrote in message | > news:ubudnWlkgqiDo0nenZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com... | > |I can't think of any, each panel has its own strengths and weaknesses | > | however Ademco is far easier to program | > | | > | "Crash Gordon" wrote in message | > | news:2LUAf.56$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net... | > | > Like what features? | > | >
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| > | > "Allan Waghalter" wrote in message | > | > news:EGPAf.3275$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net... | > | > | Ademco might be easier to program, but the Napco is so much more | > | > versatile. | > | > | More features make for more programming. As for me, I would rather | > be | > | > able | > | > | to configure a panel the way my customer wants to use it than be | > held | > to | > | a | > | > | more restricted panel. | > | > | | > | > | "Crash Gordon" wrote in message | > | > | news:4PMAf.106$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net... | > | > | > Ademco is not a large percentage of my installs...and ya know I've | > | never | > | > | > really had problems with their stuff..at least the few models that | > I | > | do | > | > | > use. | > | > | >
| > | > | > But having said that...at least Ademco stuff easier to program | > than | > | > | > NappyKO | > | > | > :-) | > | > | >
| > | > | > As far as programming goes though, nothing beats DMP for ease of | > | > | > programming...sheesh it's like using an ATM machine just answer | > | > questions | > | > | > in | > | > | > english. Panel of choice for this AARP installer. | > | > | >
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| > | > | > "Russell Brill" wrote in message | > | > | > news:39EAf.4606$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... | > | > | > | That's what you get for installing Ademcrap..... :-)) hee hee | > | > | > | | > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" wrote in | > message | > | > | > | news:RcDAf.1280$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net... | > | > | > | >I agree. I've been doing this stuff for almost 25 years and | > | sometimes | > | > I | > | > | > | >have | > | > | > | > to read the manual over and over again...and then STILL have | > to | > | call | > | > | > tech | > | > | > | > support --- who speak with a decidely off-shore accent. Its | > | > | > frustrating | > | > | > at | > | > | > | > times, but its good when you get it right. | > | > | > | >
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| > | > | > | > "Charles Schuler" wrote in message | > | > | > | > news:HqGdnd_lSslXUk_enZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com... | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" wrote in | > | message | > | > | > | > | news:_dqAf.1174$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net... | > | > | > | > | > Yep they do, and you have to speak Alarmish, a sub-dialect | > of | > | > | > 'Glish. | > | > | > | > | > They're not written for DIYers. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | They are not written for anybody who knows how to read and | > also | > | > | > trusts | > | > | > | > what | > | > | > | > | they read: | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Installer code | > | > | > | > | User code | > | > | > | > | Default code | > | > | > | > | Master code | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | In the manuals that I am trying to read, all of the above | > appear | > | > | > with | > | > | > no | > | > | > | > | definitions and are obviously used inappropriately, in some | > | cases. | > | > | > | > Trying | > | > | > | > | to program something as simple as time and date becomes a | > | > | > mind-bending | > | > | > | > | experience. Not because it needs to be ... it's because the | > | hacks | > | > | > who | > | > | > | > wrote | > | > | > | > | the manuals don't themselves understand the terms that they | > are | > | > | > using, | > | > | > | > or | > | > | > | > | perhaps are semi-clever agents dedicated to the demise of | > DIYs. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | I used to think this sort of thing was only endemic among | > | offshore | > | > | > | > products | > | > | > | > | designed and built by other than English speaking engineers. | > | Now, | > | > I | > | > | > | > have | > | > | > | > a | > | > | > | > | whole new perspective on this issue. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | I know, I know ... this "stuff" is intended for professional | > | > | > installers | > | > | > | > and | > | > | > | > | they just enjoy the hell out of DIYs hanging out here, | > twisting | > | in | > | > | > the | > | > | > | > wind. | > | > | > | > | My tenacity will prevail, in any case. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Maybe I'll put up a website and further illuminate this | > | extremely | > | > | > dark | > | > | > | > | corridor of consumer electronics in the good ole yew ess of | > aay. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
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