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What kind of equipment do I need to set up a station/extension
identifier.  I want to be able to dial some extension or code and
have the number I am at be read out to me.  I know this is
possible in the telco switch environment but I was wondering if
it was possible to do it on a PBX,  Possibly using one of the digital
sets as a way to identify the number.

Thanks




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Do you have Symposium?  If so, you could write a script that would look at
the calling line ID from the calling telephone and then "pronounce" those
digits back to the caller.  I wish I had a Symposium so I could try it!

On our system we have a couple gizmos that perform this function.  The
product is called the "Test Phone" and it was made by DTI (Digital
Technologies, Inc. I think).  I don't think they are available new anymore
but their may be some around.  The think is about the size of an older Hayes
modem, takes no external power (just the digital Line from the Meridian-1)
and a little bit of programming.

Al

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HI crossbar (is this the same one as crossbar50 at nortel.pbxinfo.com )

Why dont you program one digital set with cls icda internal call detail
allowed and aaa automatic answer allowed.
You program a tty-port as cdr-port (user cty) and hook a pc with a terminal
program to it and capture the info.
Every time you call the digital set you get an internal callrecord with the
number of the calling set.
When you also connect this pc to the lan and add a programm like VNC to it,
you can see the cdr's immedeatly.

Pennyman.


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Thanks everyone.
(No I am not the crossbar50 at nortel.pbxinfo.com.) Should I be?
I used to be a CO switchman in an old North Electric NX1-D crossbar.
Hence the name "Crossbar".

The reason for this post is we have the possibility of taking over
maintenance on a large hotel PBX.  There are no records of where
things are.  One group put this cable in and another put in that.
These cables both go to the same area but follow different routes from
the MDF.  This is scattered all over the complex.  The maintenance
staff on site doesn't know either.  Tis the reason for a reply while
you are on the line.


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:47:37 +0200, "Pennyman"

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crossbar wrote:
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Sounds like you have a very old PABX, normally you would expect the
internal number to be displayed at least when you call the reception
phone from individual phones.

Kevin Martin


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Hi Crossbar!

(That's a great name but its probably lost on most of the"kids".
Regardless, I like it!)

A couple of things...  We have a gizmo on our Nortel 81c called a "Test
Phone" made by Digital Techniques a few years ago.  While it's "MD" now
there may be some around.  We dial it up  and it "says" the number from
which we're calling.  It's an invaluable tool on larger moves and changes
and even on repairs.  It beats the old days when we called the Attendant and
said "Hi, Suzy - what number am I calling from?"  That technique worked OK
when Suzy was in a mood to talk but when she was busy (most of the time) she
quickly lost her sense of humor, if you know what I mean!

From another post you related your frustrations with undocumented cable
plant.  Well, you're not alone!  When we acquire real estate we just plan on
gutting the existing cable plant and building out our own thing.  I think it
costs more to inventory and generate new records that it does to replace the
cable!  (That may not work in your case!).  Also, for whatever it's worth,
the City of Portland (Oregon) requires tenants to remove horizontal cable
when they leave an office or store.  Does that work?  Not always, of course.
But at least it attempts to give the new guy a starting point.  I know that
doesn't apply in your case, where you're just picking up maintenance on an
existing system, but it's what we're supposed to do here.

Good luck !!

Al

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Al Gillis wrote:
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Ya, we got a Test Phone too...those are convenient when you don't want
to interupt someone 30 times a day.

Odd issue with the 6 or 7 phones we have CLS DDGD.  If you call the
Test Phone, it will read back the last phone that "was not CLS DDGD" -
that was a pain for a day or two :-)





Is this the Cisco rep using "Private Automatic Branch Exchange" to tell
someone else _they_ have something outdated?

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(Much snippage...

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We've discovered (the hard way) that that does happen!  Another thing we
haven't figured out is why we can't get correct reponses wien the "Test
Phone" get a vaild number from a PRI as opossed to one from an internal DN.
I would have thought that would work.




Re: Line Identification


Take a look at Cognitronics. You'll need to program a CAMA trunk to feed the
ANA box. This is THE technique used in the TELCO environment to do ANA.
Overkill? - Yes, but I don't know of anything else sold right now that will
do ANA.
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Other than the digital techniques unit, other options could be a
companion, or spectralink, or cordless phone with a class modem line
card for calling line display to an analog set.
you could also leave a message in voice mail and retrieve message and
and listen to header to see what extension left message (very time
consuming, but it works)



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We put one on a MITEL using a Dialogic card, a text-to-voice box from (I
think) Black Box and a tiny little program written in Quick Basic. The
whole shootin' match runs in MS-DOS from a ram drive and fits on a 3-"
floppy with room to spare. It will read back anything that calls it,
whether an internal extension or a DID call.

I believe Intecom has one in their PBX that will read back the ext along
with the cabinet #, shelf #, slot # and circuit #  Now that's cool.


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