Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?

Are you sure I wrote that? That would be a difficult claim for me to make. The last iPhone I owned was an iPhone 3G. The last iPad was an iPad 2. I never tried using either with any OBD-II BT device, including those owned by customers. Mostly, I've used various OBD-II BT devices on a variety of Android, Windoze, ChromeOS, and Linux computahs. I will confess that I did help a friend reset his engine warning light and record the codes using his iPhone 4 and one of my OBD-II dongles. However, that was so long ago that I don't recall if I had any problems or if I was successful. Probably successful because I tend to remember the problems and forget the successes.

Also, if I had claimed that something "works better", I would have provided comparisons, details, and examples. I always do that.

Incidentally, I consider iPhones and Android phones to be rather similar at the user level. Perhaps as much as 90% similar if I don't explore the architecture and details. Apple and Google have been borrowing each other's ideas for a long time. As evidence, I've noticed that it's not very difficult for an iPhone user to quickly learn how to use an Android phone. The reverse is also true. The only thing that's really different are the names of the various functions and how deeply Apple and Google bury them in their menu systems. Extra credit to vendors, such as Sumsung, that add proprietary enhancements to help lock in their customers who don't want to learning too much that's new.

Obviously he is not familiar with Android devices, and believes that something that Android devices have done for years, automatically launching an app when if connects to Bluetooth.

It would be very expensive to ship all the materials necessary, and he would be unlikely to understand any of it anywat.

A few years ago, IIRC - not that it's really relevant.

Jeff Liebermann snipped-for-privacy@cruzio.com asked

Jeff, You don't appear to know these Apple zealot cultists like Jolly Roger, Everything they claim is fabricated.

They can't ever back up even a single claim they brazenly make.

Why? I'm not sure why.

It seems they're desperate to defend the religious belief systems Apple advertising inculcated into their brains, sans a single actual fact.

They are like trying to understand why a flat earther is what he is. They only believe what Tim Cooks tells them to believe on the Apple site.

This YourName idiot is one of those Apple weirdos?

that was not a very good deal, and without btle, it's very outdated.

if it turns itself off after 30 minutes, then there's no need for a button (plus it's very inconvenient to use) and the quiescent draw is negligible and not normally an issue either.

i bought an obd adapter with btle for $10 a few years ago. it works great without any issues. no idea who made it. they're fairly generic although some are definitely junk.

there are more advanced obd adapters and apps available, for those who want additional features.

i also have several other obd adapters. one in particular is a custom obd device used for a very specific purpose, with custom software.

that's not a very good theory. quite bad, in fact.

two different tracks by two different groups within apple.

very marginally, since there i can't think of any issue with early iphones and non-apple routers, something which would be *very* widespread if it existed.

i still have my old iphones and various routers so any specifics would be of interest.

i do recall a minor issue with the original ipad with only *some* wifi networks, which turned out to be a configuration issue of the affected wifi networks. the ipads worked normally just about everywhere else.

wise choice.

then don't pretend to know more about apple products than those who actually use apple products every day and have for many years.

in another post, you said the last iphone you had was *thirteen*

stick to networking and radios.

they don't, except in very limited circumstances. btdt. as usual, you are wrong.

bluetooth is one of many things that ios does better than android. it's just how it is. i've written apps that use bluetooth and am *very* familiar with what's possible and what's not, on both platforms.

there are also some things that android does better than ios. however, bluetooth ain't one of them.

Jeff knows more electronics than fifty of you Jolly Rogers' will ever know. He has a self deprecating sense of wit, much like Paul on the Windows ng.

All you Apple idiots are so stupid you can't believe that it's only you five or six morons who believe only what Apple posts on the Apple web site.

You lied to Jeff and you expected to get away with it because you think everyone is as stupid as you five or six Apple morons are.

nospam snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid asked

You're desperate to defend the crippled iOS using always the _same_ tricks.

We see nospam following the predictable path in increasing desperation...

1. First claim he told the user already many times (even as it's impossible).
2. When that fails, claim imaginary functionality on the Apple App Store.
3. When that fails, say everyone else made Apple remove basic functionality
4. When that fails, say it's not Apple's fault - it's the developers' fault.
5. When that fails, say you should write all the app functionality yourself.
6. When that fails, accuse everyone of being stupid who isn't a developer.
7. When that fails, resort to an infinity of "ftfy" & ad hominem attacks.

All this because he _hates_ *to own an iPhone is to own a crippled device*.

In the definition of nospam, Lewis, Jolly Roger and Joerg Lorenz, you must only play games on your phone. You must not debug anything. No utilities.

Since they can't do it on an iPhone, you have no right to do it on Android.

nospam snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid asked

And yet you've never found even _one_ app functionality on iOS that wasn't already on Android, even as there is _plenty_ of Android app functionality not on iOS (such as foss automatic call recording, foss graphical wifi debugging, the real tor browser bundle security, foss system wide firewalls, choice of foss app launchers, etc.).

The reason Apple devices are crippled is only one reason. Apple cripples them.

It's not the hardware (although Apple removes most of the basic hardware). It's not even the operating system per se (although it has holes galore).

The reason Apple iOS devices are crippled compared to Android is simple. Apple limits the functionality of iOS devices while Google can't.

Same thing happened when Apple screwed up all Linux connections to iOS. That was sometime around iOS 7.0.1 as I recall (not gonna look it up as the iOS bigots will just deny what everyone else but them already knows).

Apple f***ed with the API and then claimed it was Linux' problem. Why? Because Apple doesn't give a f*ck about Linux. So Apple broke connectivity of Linux to iOS without even testing it once.

Luckily, after a flurry of activity, the Linux folks fixed Apple's shit. The result was again Linux is more functional with the iPad than iTunes.

Native Ubuntu has read/write/delete access to iOS file system. It treats the iOS device as a read/write/delete USB stick.

Apple probably hates that people have that kind of functionality though.

nospam snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid asked

You don't know anything about iPhones, nospam.

Where's the real torproject tor browser you keep claiming exists, nospam? Where are the wifi graphical debuggers you keep claiming exist, nospam? Where are the encryption container tools you keep claiming exist, nospam? Where are the automatic call recorder tools you keep claiming exist, nospam? Where are the system wide foss firewalls you keep claiming exist, nospam? Where are the fake gps spoofing apps you keep claiming work, nospam? Where are the true ad free youtube clones you keep claiming work, nospam? Where are the historical IPA backup tools you keep fabricating, nospam?

Why do you incessantly prove to not even have a clue about how iOS works? I don't know why.

I suspect you get everything you know about iPhones from Apple's web site.

yet another arlen nym.

linux support was done by the linux community, not apple.

when apple made a change, the linux community had to update their driver, which they did, just as what happens with any product that has aftermarket support.

Now you're just repeating yourself. And nym switching is lame. *YAWN*

Apple doesn't support the main operating systems in use today. Specifically Apple doesn't test their changes that affect linux.

It's one more example of Apple products not working in the real world. Apple products only work well inside an Apple-made artificial walled garden.

Jolly Roger snipped-for-privacy@pobox.com asked

Jolly Roger lied to you Jeff. Just like Apple always lies about their battery use time.

Apple probably lies like crazy about their Airport Router signal strength. (Yes, I know full well you've studied that stuff in great detail. All lie.)

But still... it seems that *Nobody lies like Apple lies* in terms of size. (Apple paid over a billion dollars last year alone for their public lies.)

And yet, all these lies only hold if nobody checks up on their many lies.

Nobody can ever reproduce the lies from Jolly Roger or Apple. They assume we're too stupid to check up on what they brazenly make up.

The fact is Jolly Roger just made up the price out of nothing. Jolly Roger probably doesn't even own the device, nor did he ever.

Jolly Roger assumed you wouldn't check up on his lies. The real question is why do these Apple apologists brazenly lie?

Are they really that stupid? Or are they just desperate to defend Apple at all costs?

yes they do, that being macos and windows.

linux on the desktop is *not* common, no matter what linux users might think.

linux is commonly used for servers or embedded devices, neither of which need iphone support.

there's no reason why they should since linux isn't a supported system.

lots of companies don't support linux, including camera makers, wearable devices and much more.

the linux community normally creates its own support for such devices, with varying degrees of success (usually not particularly good).