PR: Brinks vs. Tech-man.com

unauthorized reproduction, regardless if others are also

of websites offer them but made no attempt to halt

they've got deep pockets.

First of all, they're "end user" manuals. Brinks (for quite some time) allowed open access to their manuals "online". They acknowledged this in one of the letters to Jim. As long as Jim acknowledges the copyright (doesn't try to provide manuals with his own logo in place of the Brinks ones), and DOESN'T CHARGE FOR THEM, he should be OK.

They do have "deep pockets" though. If they DO decide to pursue legal action, I'll be first in line to help out with a significant donation to Jim's Defense fund. Since they were kind enough to provide a copy of their contract, I'd like to put it on the

I already removed the links to their manuals, which I have no problem with. As far as the rest of their demands, they can basically huff all they want to.

Jim Rojas

Precisely!

And I am tired of those who think this is why when it's not, THE REASON it is done is to streamline the installation process and prevent incorrect programming. When you are a company the size of Brinks and you don't do that you end up with 5,000 different ways to program the same panel. Few installers do it correctly

Man... Workin' for ADT must be a nightmare then. How many times have they changed manufacturer's in the last couple of years??

Only because you installed it

Not even as compost?

environmentally

Oh thanks Tom, I had signed an NDA on that new Loxxon and you just blew it

Didn't even think of that. Silly me.

not to mention the engineer-type homeowners who believe they can program anything.

And I am tired of you posting this BS. The primary reason for panel lockout codes is to make it more difficult for homeowneres to switch service providers or go it alone. It has nothing to do with streamlining anything.

Y'know... those kinda people don't bother me nearly as much as the jerk that says he can teach you how to "professionally install" a home alarm system in about two hours over the phone.

codes is to make it more difficult for homeowneres to

streamlining anything.

Why are you telling Crash that?

codes is to make it more difficult for homeowneres to

streamlining anything.

Nope. Once again, you "miss" the real reason and fill the group with more of your Basspeak. I wouldn't expect someone without insurance, licensing or bonding to care one way or the other anyway.

Robert, I beg to disagree with you on this one. The cost of replacing a board is so low as to virtually eliminate your argument on fear of takeovers. I don't lock a panel out but do use my own programmers code. The reason for not wanting the owner to have access to the panel is to prevent him from accidentally changing a setting that will prevent the system from functioning correctly and therefore exposing us to litigation.