I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel. I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for First Alert. Anybody have one of these for sale?
First Alert Fa 148c programming
Aug 29, 2006
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You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
Did you hook the battery back up correctly when you re-installed it? Red- to red black to black, make sure the connections are solid.
I've never seen that msg displayed anywhere. The 148 is the same as a Vista
15...the 6139 will program it. Did you have the keypad addressed correctly and programmed in the panel at *190, 191 etc?| >
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I believe It was a FA 148 C. I will double check later today.
I set the 6139 to adress 16 and 31. Neither one worked. The existing kp was disconnected for the testing. The Ademco Tech told me it was a vista 10 se.
You need to use the FA250 keypad.
Jim Rojas
Sorry, I meant the FA560.
Jim Rojas
Try keypad address 8, then try 0.
142c or 145c is a 10se, pretty sure the 148c is a straight 15.
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If you try an Ademco 6150 on a FA1600C it says "incompat console" and does a fast beep. And won't work.
Rick
thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs before.
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Will FAs keypads work on Ademco panels? If so, maybe someone changed out the FA board to an Ademco board, leaving it in the same can, at one point to get the account. Crazier things have happened.
Could be...stranger things have happened. One time we were trying to program an Ademco panel (sorry, can't remember which model), we where having a hell of a time, there seemed to be missing or extra programming addresses that didn't match up with the programming sheet (new out of box panel mind you)...turns out we had a pre-release version of something we should not have had. Killed my entire day.
Most will work, some won't. There's a cross-compatibility list floating around on the web somewhere...
An Ademco 6150 will work on FA 147C and FA 168C, as will the Ademco 6128 and its replacement, whatever that # is, I forget.
I do notice a lot of my FA 560's develop display problems like dark shadows at the top - but who knows what happens to them to cause it. Funny how keypads I mount at 8 feet for door status never go bad.... The kp's I use for 1/2 hour night shift check-ins are wearing out after 5 years average. Perfect app for a reader, but I am stuck with kp's in 50+ bldgs that generate over 1700 events every 24 hrs. Job security!
Rick
Yea it will do that
Several First Alert panels will do just that, the 148C, 160C and a couple of others that I know of
8?
I'm sure you have although not on these specific systems, some FA panels require FA keypads and some don't
If you don't mind me asking what was the 147C made for? I've heard that model number but not who used it or roughly what panel it cross-references to
FA147C - proprietary board for Guardian/Pittsburgh. Defaults to their CS and download #'s, also dialer is more robust in some way, as the 147C will dial an extension on my PBX (Executone IDS) where a 20P will not break dial tone consistently - no clue why but verified by installing two different
20P's in the can where the 147C was happy. Guardian no longer uses the 147C, a 6 zone residential panel (similar to the Vista 15), but has switched to the FA168C (a proprietary 20P), which will also dial an extension on my PBX. As will the FA1600C, I've got 6 of those as well.The dialer thing drove me crazy a couple of years ago, but I am resigned to buying FA boards or kits from Guardian, and choking when I see what they list for at ADI. At least it is company money, not mine!
Rick
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