dsl to dsl with no isp

Jan 27, 2005 8 Replies

Hi all



I'm looking for some information regarding the possibility of connection 2 networks together which are 150 meters apart without using either wireless or ethernet through a series of switches.



Apparently the only wired connection available is a 4 wire phone cable, so the thought occurred to me to use a dsl modem at each end but i have no idea if it's as simple as that or if i will also need whatever equipment the phone company usually installs in the exchange. Thanks in advance.


if it is twisted pair, you might find 10 Base-T ethernet would work. The standards limit is 100 m, but at 10M and with reasonable quality pairs, you might get it to work with 150m.

if you want DSL instead, then ADSL is asymmetric, and most consumer kit is designed to talk to a DSLAM at a telco.

try a pair of SDSL modems - Net2Net makes some with ethernet interfaces that i have seen used across telco base copper links, using 2 twisted pairs - they gave approx 2 Mbps throughput over a mile or so.

You could run SDSL or ShDSL DSL modems at each end. But not ADSL of any form.

Or else, look for Ethernet Extender products. Tut makes some, as well as other manufacturers.

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Make sure it's twisted pair.(w-bl, w-or). Quad wire (r,g,y,bk) will give you too much crosstalk.

This sounds like inter-building. You have to watch for ground potential differences during nearby lightning strikes. Make sure you have good protection at both ends. Some SDSL modem should work.

-- Robert

This is one of the applications for which the "Ethernet in the First Mile" standard (EFM, IEEE Std 802.3ah-2004) was developed. There are two EFM variants that will run over several hundreds meters of phone cable: 2BASE-TL (based on SHDSL) and 10PASS-TS (based on VDSL). You can find more information about EFM on

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Michael (remove filter from email adress)

Hi you, I'm right now looking for something very similar to what you want. Here's a link - that's where I am at the moment.

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you probably have to look for a vendor at your place for this vdsl-equipment

Here's another link

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