Any service with unlimited calling within US to use from Europe

Hello,

Here is an Internet Phone Service that you may be interested in. 3WTel. Their VoIP software is very secure, and they offer a free 7 day trial.

Hello,

Here is an Internet Phone Service that you may be interested in. 3WTel. Their VoIP software is very secure, and they offer a free 7 day trial.

If I am going to use a closed-source, non-standards-compliant proprietary system that requires my computer to be turned on, why wouldn't I use Skype instead?

Skype is free instead of $5/month.

Skype has cheaper rates for calls to "real" phones.

Skype is cross-platform, so it's available to Mac and Linux users.

Skype has much wider distribution, so people I want to talk with are less likely to have to download and install some new piece of mysterious software.

miguel

Personally, I'm going to stick to auditable open-source code.

-wolfgang

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

proprietary

Thanks wolfgang,

Its sad how many poor unknowing people get taken from software venders just because they think they are getting something for free.

IF anyone takes the time to read the link above they will see first hand that there is no such thing as a free ride.

They end up paying one way or another.

Five lousy dollars a month for the quality that 3Wtel provides, and the

security it offers has been money well spent.

Open source code is another name for Hackers enter here...

I just love this post put up by someone else....

I like to make this anaolgy to my customers: You hear about this great group that lets you join to get free gasoline for your car. They have developed a system to get gas from a pump without paying for it. You are excited, finally something for free that you really need. So you fill up your tank with the free gas. Well, what you didn't know was that while your tank was being filled, your plugs were getting fouled, your fuel injectors had been plugged, your timing had been changed, and your tired had been deflated. So you hop in your car with your free full tank of gas and head down the road. But after a few days of driving, you notice your car no longer has any pep, it begins to stall, and other strange things begin to occur. So you take it to your local garage and get it tuned up and all the problems fixed. You grudgingly pay the repairman $500 for all the work he had to perform and complain that you only paid $2000 for the car to begin with. But your car is now running fine again. That tank of gas just cost you $500, a few days at the service station, and you couldn't get to where you waanted to go for those few days. But it was all worth it because you got a "free" tank of gas. I like to make this anaolgy to my customers: You hear about this great group that lets you join to get free gasoline for your car. They have developed a system to get gas from a pump without paying for it. You are excited, finally something for free that you really need. So you fill up your tank with the free gas. Well, what you didn't know was that while your tank was being filled, your plugs were getting fouled, your fuel injectors had been plugged, your timing had been changed, and your tired had been deflated. So you hop in your car with your free full tank of gas and head down the road. But after a few days of driving, you notice your car no longer has any pep, it begins to stall, and other strange things begin to occur. So you take it to your local garage and get it tuned up and all the problems fixed. You grudgingly pay the repairman $500 for all the work he had to perform and complain that you only paid $2000 for the car to begin with. But your car is now running fine again. That tank of gas just cost you $500, a few days at the service station, and you couldn't get to where you waanted to go for those few days. But it was all worth it because you got a "free" tank of gas.

Free is not the same as open.

The good kind of free is the collaborative effort of hundreds of people that together put out a product you couldn't buy for money if you wanted to. It is a bit like the difference some 9-to-5er at jiffy-lube changing your oil and over-torquing the drain plug because he simply doesn't care, and some automobile enthusiast that cares about some fine restored automobile carefully doing everything just right.

Free and open software is written by enthusiasts for *themselves* because they need that software. It might be freely given to other folks, but that is not the main point. The point is that the good stuff is done with a much higher standard because they want it for themselves.

Why? Is their stuff open? I've never heard of them.

Ahem.

Paying money in and of itself doesn't guarantee any sort of code quality or freedom from trojans. You have only to look as far as Microsoft and their various slip-shot offerings and their virus/worms of the week. Unless the code is open for inspection and determined to be of high quality one is only inviting trouble.

-wolfgang

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