Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
All I can say .....no.... wait..... all I WILL say .... is that YOU should take the time to go back in THIS groups archives before you make any suggestions at ALL about how to cure the ills of this group. YOU have no idea what an isidious, malicious SOB Bass is. All of the ignoring in the world is not going to stop this nasty, spiteful, and vidictive degenerate.
I don't know if you seen any of the things this creep has done to people, but here's at least a partial list. You will please note, that ignoring most of the items in this list simply empowers him to accomplish his goal of exploiting this Newsgroup for his own personal gain.
He ridicules people constantly. His way is always the right way and there's always someone he's correcting about how things should be done. And if you don't agree with him he's immediately implying that you don't know half of what he knows. That you don't have his experience, or backgroud. He's better than you because you don't agree with him. His mantra is, "this is an alt group. You can't tell anyone what to do here. If you don't like it, you can leave"
He uses this group as a fourm to sell his products to end users, SPECIFICALLY against the FAQ. He lies to end users by telling them he's in the installation trade. He's stolen information from people here and has posted it on his site as his own origin. He plagerized information from publications and claimed it as his ideas. He's called (all) installers and individuals, monkeys, idiots, stupid ..... in his quest to degrade the installation trade, so that end users will be enticed to do their own alarm systems, buying equipment from him, rather than use an "untrustworthy" alarm installer. He claims that he's STILL in the installation trade, yet he hasn't installed a system in over 5 years (and likely much longer) and knows little about new products except what he reads. He's gone to a competitors web site and posting under a false name, left derogatory coments as if he was an end user who'd received bad service. He's contacted peoples employers and told lies about them to get them in trouble with their boss. He's posted under false names as end users praising himself as being a good souce for equipment. He's posted under false names trying to start disagreements. I've personally caught him doing that and others have also.
Now THAT's only SOME of the things that he's done here. Take a good look at that list and tell me what ignoring is going to do? Ignoring simply leaves him free to do what he does and end users, being none the wiser, are taken in by his lies and misdirection and "willingness" to help them. With out being warned, these people are being led right down the path that he's designed. Sure, he may very well give them everything he says he will, but at the expense of the all the people he's stepped on in the meantime. And in ADDITION, the others who frequent the group are ALSO helping the end users and HE'S using that information to enhance his ability to make a sale. Tell me how "ignoring" is going to help THAT? And here's another little tidbit. Seven or more years ago, Bass was in an aviation group. The archives show that he DID THE VERY SAME THINGS IN THAT GROUP AS HE'S DONE HERE! Ultimately, after he'd disrupted the group for a couple of years, THEY ..... all added their names to a list on a post, objecting to his conduct, bad behavior and unsavory arrogance. He ultimately had to leave the group because he was always pointed out as a trouble maker. Here's some of the things that he did there. He had a disagreement with someone in the group so he called some aviation organization and falsely reported that the person was flying drunk. He stole some information from someone and tried to publish it as his own. Then tried to use the returning of the information as ransom if they'd let him back into the group. He sent mail bombs and signed people up to various sites so they'd get mounds of e-mail. When all the participants of that group wanted him out and ignored him, he sent giant files to the Newsgroup to continuously annoy people and to fill up the servers to bump messages from the group.
So ........Tell me now ........ did you want to re-think your advice on what to do about Bass? How does one ignore a malignant, sinister SOB like that?
Oh, and one more thing. In his personal life, he's responsible for the death of someone because of neglegence and is a convicted felon for pulling a gun on someone. How much more of a malevolent degenerate can one person possibly be? He's certainly ranks among the most iniquitous people I've ever come across.
In closing ....... His goal is to exploit this group so he can sell equipment to end users. If that end cannot be met, there's no reason for him to stay. Only ignoring him , simply lets him sell more equipment by continually ranking on the installation trade. By everyone in the group denouncing him as the unpricipaled degenerate he is, to anyone new who comes here, will curtail his exploitation of this Newgroup. Perhaps that, along with ignoring him, would be the solution. Ignoring alone just wont work.
You're post is nice ....... And I know you're just trying to be helpful ....... but .......... it's worthless in view of the deliberate disrupting conduct of the villan we're dealing with.