Why would I need to purchase IPSec client software?

May 12, 2005 4 Replies

I'm looking into buying one of Netgear's Prosafe routers. They offer VPN client software in addition to the routers

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Don't Win2k and XP come with IPsec client support? Would I need to purchase the software in addition to the router to tunnel from a client into the network served by the router? I'm asking not just for Windows clients, but I'd also like to set up Linux IPSec clients as well.



Thanks.


Win2k and WinXP know about IPsec manual key, and L2TP over IPsec manual key (or even PPP auth with L2TP), but they don't know anything what-so-ever about IKE keying with pre-shared secrets, or X.509 certifcates.

Most people find entering in your SA, and ESP associations and keys all by hand and making sure they match quite a pain. Plus of course, that doesn't let you have any sort of re-keying or revokion other than shutting down that SA (after you remember which SA is which).

Windows IPSec is very ugly for dial in client style functionality. It was really designed for setting up a windows server with local LAN using IPSec all controlled with group policy and a corporate certificate authority.

It does work with certificates though only in the lan style environment as I mentioned. For most uses over the internet it is inappropriate. I have never bothered to do more than a lab implementation just to see how ugly it was. The built in L2TP method can work but it has trouble with NAT so I have never been able to deploy it, though I could see where it might be useful on a restricted basis.

So, yes the windows built in ipsec support could likely be made to work with the Netgear router but it is so inflexible that it's not a practical way to implement an IPSEC VPN connection to a desktop PC. You don't require the client that netgear sells, if you prefer to use another vendors IPSec client you can probably make it work. I have heard that support for this client software is not free from Netgear and the documentation is not great so you may be disappointed with that experience too. I believe many people are using these routers to make network to network connections using 2 routers more than the client "dialing" into the router type of connection. If you are interested in a solution that is good at making VPN gateway to client software connections then take a look at the Watchguard X line. They integrate the router and the client software very nicely.

We bought a D-Link DFL-200 VPN "endpoint" router. It works with the Windows XP built-in VPN client (PPTP).

It also works with the GreenBow IPsec client (the only 3rd party client that we tried).

A "side effect" of installing the GreenBow client is that when we use the XP client, we can still browse the net (split-tunnel). Normally, when VPN'ed with the XP client, you lose access to the net.

Note - we also looked into buying a Prosafe router, but Netgear didn't answer our "20 VPN questions" email. D-Link did, so we bought from them

- and it works.

Ed

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