gone independent, need sources

Is this a serious question?

absolutely. i have qualified that i have avoided wireless installs.and am therefore out of date with what is currently available. i can remember back in the 80s there was a wireless system available that utilized glass break sensors that you simply plugged into any wall outlet thus eliminating the need for batteries (other than the built-in backup battery). i _want_ to say it was called "watchdog" systems but i cannot be certain because it has been so long. i have not used ANY wireless equipment other than BHS so i am not familiar with what is available today. thank you,

-- Nathan In Montana

yup he's a Brinks guy!

before you continue to make an ignorant ass of yourself, perhaps you should do a little research on older alarm technology.

Nathan In Montana

It's not that I question the existence of this equipment, it's the fact that it never was, and never will be, something to be considered actual "security" equipment.

I think you would be doing yourself, and especially your potential client, a great disservice by accepting this type of work until you have gained some experience in the field. You might want to consider a tech position with a security company that utilizes modern wireless equipment in order to learn the ropes. I am not trying to be rude, it's just a suggestion, but your question itself shows an general lack of knowledge in the area of wireless technology.

Seriously, to ask for a information on what is available, and details about wireless equipment, so you can secure a bid for 25 systems using equipment you are unfamiliar with? This has the makings of a bad situation written all over it.

I would hope you would take what I have written as genuine advice from someone who has seen the results of such undertakings, and not just someone trying to "flame" you. Accepting a 25 system job using equipment you are not familiar with is NOT getting your new venture off on the right foot. Sorry.

agreed. this is why i have avoided wireless systems this long. that said, im not venturing into a new field i am simply adding wireless by request of a very good customer. i have made my best effort to sell him on letting us hardwire these systems but its not negotiable. i have worked with adding receivers and transmitters to existing panels (for adding keyfobs) i have simply preferred to hardware all sensors. any input on equipment would truly be appreciated.

thanks,

-- Nathan In Montana

Nathan:

Tried, and ADI sell to dealers "on line". There are a number of other alarm distributors that offer online ordering and account tracking. I think these are your best choices.

Good luck with your new venture!

many thanks frank. its been awhile, im glad to see there are still a few of the old timers (in regards to length of participation in asa) still around!

-- Nathan In Montana

ge

Do yourself an even bigger favor and walk away from this home builder. Home Builders are notorious for not paying there subs. Especially if these are spec homes I have seen too many contractors ruined by home builders who stiffed them. unless you get at 2/3 up front forget it.

That's very true. Most of the time those "opportunities" turn out to be nothing but a waste. Whatever you choose, welcome back and good luck.

And why would a builder request wireless ........... anyway?

hello, this particular builder also owns several dozen commercial properties that we maintain (my primary business is

for a gross average of around $75,000 a year. he has remained loyal for several years even when we bid higher on capital equipment projects (i have never tried to be the cheapest game in town, only the best game in town) and always pays his bill without trying to haggle on every job like some i have worked for in the past. payment is a non-issue. that said, because he has been such a good customer it is important that i sell him quality systems. while i still do not like wireless he has made it clear that going wireless is non-neogtiable and if im going with wireless anyway at the very least i want to use _good_ wireless components.

all this in mind, any equipment recommendations you could make would be sincerely appreciated.

thanks,

-- Nathan In Montana

thank you, sir. glad to see your health iimproving.

Nathan In Montana

ITI has good wireless systems.

I have worked extensively with First Alert branded Ademco/Honeywell equipment and have not had too many issues. Biggest problem I've seen is that repeaters cannot be daisy-chained like the ITI stuff.

I'm also curious as to why the builder INSISTS on wireless.

Around here it's usually an attempt at an end-around permits as the inspectors don't see the wiring during the rough-in inspections and trim out only occurs after occupancy has been granted. Then again, here only the fire equipment and wiring gets inspected.

many thanks. from where do you prefer to purchase both?

i am not aware of his reasons as i didnt push him for more after he stated it was non-negotiable. were he not such a dependable customer in my primary business i would most likely walk away from the job because of my prejudices against wireless systems.

thanks again,

-- Nathan In Montana

I use the Honeywell wireless products on just about all apartment, and condo installs. Don't count on any discounts from ADI. I buy all my alarm products on the web for 50-75 percent less.

Jim Rojas

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Rojas" Newsgroups: alt.security.alarms Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: Re: gone independent, need sources

thank you for the information. can you share your sources for this equipment? thanks again,

-- Nathan In Montana

There you go then, just use the equipment you already have experience with adding keyfobs and receiver to. Modern wireless is great, although I always prefer wired motions over wireless.

sage

Did a Home Builder beat you as a child or something?