Failure rate of window / door magnetic sensors

testing the circuits. aint that how you do it?

Nope. I only call ADT when I feel the need to over pay for inferior work.

and that'd be when? Never or 2nd day after Sarasota freezes over?

Thats a good idea for really really big jobs. Typically I can hear my piezo beeper (homemade job) very well in all but the biggest jobs...that high freq cuts through most on job noise.

They beat me to the punch...read my earlier post.

dontcha worry about blasting some plumbers eardrum out by accident with the peizo? :)

You've gotta be kidding!

I worked on a job about a month ago. I like quiet...I enjoy working with no music. Anyway, we go into this huge echo-y house and theres 5 different Mexican crews all playing (at max volume) DIFFERENT Mexican radio stations or CDs. I told them ONE station and half the volume, or I will smash the freekin radios.

You are lucky they didn't sic officials from La Raza after you

That reminds me of a job we did in Hartford many years ago. The customer was rehabbing the home after a fire. He had a company called the "Stereo Shop" install a multi-room audio. We put in the alarm system. When the system was finished I walked around the house and warned everyone that I was going to test the siren. Inside the panel was a JDS-100i driver. In the bedroom hallway was a flush-mount speaker, wired in parallel with a 40-Watt horn just inside the attic louver. I don't recall exactly but the output was something like 120dB at 10 feet.

I armed the system, waited for the exit delay and opened a window. After a few seconds I hit the code and shut it down. A few seconds later a really PO'd tech from the stereo shop came down from the attic. He had been installing an FM antenna right behind the horn when it went off. It startled him so much that he stood bolt upright, banging his head on a roofing nail.

I apologized and explained that I had told everyone I was about to set off the siren. No one told me anyone was up there. He kept complaining until I finally said something to the effect, "Look, you heard a loud noise and hit your head. There's no major damage..."

Idiot boy interrupted me, "Your hearing hasn't been fine tuned to hear music like mine," or some such stereo sales drivel.

I asked him if the customer had already bought the system from his employer. He said, "Yes, of course."

I said, "OK, then. You can drop the bullshit now and get back to work." :^)

BTW, the "Stereo Shop" tech-idiots the speaker wires through the holes along with plumbing and hot water heating pipes. Instead of drive rings they ties their cables (none of which were rated for in-wall use) to pipes, conduit or whatever was handy. This was the same shop that years later sold my customer some garden hose sized speaker cables when all he needed was to re-driver the used speakers he had. Idiots!

I would have thrown your ass out for saying that

(Legal disclaimer: This assumes the event mentioned above really happend)

You might have tried.

This assumes you actually happened.

Please tell us what types of cables are rated for in-wall use.

Please cite an NEC section to support your claim.

- badenov

You honestly think he will?

By the way, *Mr. Sableman*, I wish you'd stop posting anonymously.

Poor choice of words. The cable they used was not listed for use in buildings.