This is to acknowledge receipt of your scrawled note across your PAST DUE statement. We gladly terminate your service effective immediately. We do however need to point out a couple things.
Your service was already past due when you chose to cancel your service. This means we have already handled signals and provided service for which you have not paid. 2. Your system is still sending signals to our central station. These are signals we are being forced to handle for which you are refusing to pay for service.
These items need to be remedied. We will gladly stop by during normal business hours to de-program your system from reporting to our central station. We are willing to do this as a courtesy. It will reduce our expense for a non-paying customer, and allow you to easily transition to some other alarm company at the least expense. We can also do this after hours or on a weekend if available, but we will only do so if you are willing to pay the full rate for an overtime after hours visit (cash only). Please give 72 hrs prior notice if you would like us to take care of this for you.
As to the item of you deciding to cancel service AFTER your account was past due, we will gladly write you off as a bad debt if you will take immediate action to facilitate proper termination of service to include having your alarm panel programmed to stop sending signals to our central station.
If we are still receiving alarm signals from your alarm panel by the time we process our next billing cycle in September we will have no choice, but to take further action against you including collections of past due balances.
Thats why I offer this alternative to us going out there for free to deprogram; You can have us come out and deprogram it for free but you will have to pay what you owe us when the tech gets there. OR...You can unplug the RJ...either way you or we must stop signals from being sent to our central station or we will continue to bill you for monitoring. A few days later they will call about the fail to communicate messages or beeping :-)
One alarm company had another method which worked rather effectively. They used to program every system to send nightly self-test signals. Attached to their primary receiver's incoming lines was a Rochelle
6-line caller ID device. The device sent caller ID (ICLID data) via serial port to one of their computers. That PC ran a program which a certain person wrote that would compare every incoming call to a list of "deadbeat" phone numbers. Anyone who failed to pay AND refused to allow them to deprogram the C-station information from their system had their number added to the list.
The list never had more than a few numbers on it at any given time. Here's why. Also connected to that PC was an RS-232 controlled
8-position relay board. The relays were wired in series with the receiver's phone lines. Any time a "deadbeat" sent a signal the line would be interrupted for 5 seconds -- long enough to cause the dialer to hang up and initiate a retry. They programmed most systems for 5 to
8 tries. After that they would go into a trouble mode. Most systems were programmed to send test signals in the middle of the night. Most residential clients had a keypad in the master bedroom. Upon a "failure to communicate" trouble condition the keypads would make a racket.
This caused the client to call for service. That in turn gave the alarm company an opportunity to remove their phone numbers from the deadbeat's alarm panel and (sometimes) caused said deadbeat to pay the bill.
I'm not saying who did this, but if you've got a modicum of programming skills and a bit of patience I can teach you how to do it. :^)
Of course, since the whole affair isn't UL you couldn't really use it unless you had a small, non-listed central station. Then again, most of the people who participate here have never touched a UL-listed system anyway so that might not be an issue.
You've mentioned this in the past as one of your methods that you used to use. So it's obvious YOU'Ve never touched a UL listed system, by your own admission.
Contrarily, you don't have clue one way or the other about anyone else here.
Not quite right. Like you, I never bothered with a UL listing for my company. Like you, I mostly installed residential systems which rarely require UL certification although the hardware itself was always UL listed (not the main point, of course).
Unlike you, I installed mostly hard wired systems for over 20 years and unlike you I actually know how to install and service them.
As to the "not quite right" part, I've serviced lots of UL-listed systems. I've also taken over plenty of them when the customers became disgusted with the poor service of the only UL-lisdted c-station alarm company in Hartford (my old home area), a company who I sometimes call "Sonitrash". Even you can probably figure out who that is.
Wrong, but that never stopped you in the past.
And yet you presume to know the first thing about my installation skills. One thing I have noticed is that you've always hidden your identity whiile posting all your trash for so many years. You're like a cowardly school child, hiding behind a bush and throwing mud at anyone who passes by.
Everyone knows what you are and why you're such a coward, Jimbo. You're deathly afraid that one of the numerous people you attack will come looking for you. The truly funny part is that you're most afraid of me. Don't be scared, Jimbo. I won't hurt you. Heck, if we ever met I'd just laugh at you.
Feel free to prattle on about your great achievements, your imaginary yacht and your recurring dreams of adventures in the islands. No one believes you and no one cares.
what are you on about? I can dial in to any monitored system of mine to deal with deadbeats, where's the rocket science here? you sound like a trained monkey.
One alarm company had another method which worked rather effectively. They used to program every system to send nightly self-test signals. Attached to their primary receiver's incoming lines was a Rochelle
6-line caller ID device. The device sent caller ID (ICLID data) via serial port to one of their computers. That PC ran a program which a certain person wrote that would compare every incoming call to a list of "deadbeat" phone numbers. Anyone who failed to pay AND refused to allow them to deprogram the C-station information from their system had their number added to the list.
The list never had more than a few numbers on it at any given time. Here's why. Also connected to that PC was an RS-232 controlled
8-position relay board. The relays were wired in series with the receiver's phone lines. Any time a "deadbeat" sent a signal the line would be interrupted for 5 seconds -- long enough to cause the dialer to hang up and initiate a retry. They programmed most systems for 5 to
8 tries. After that they would go into a trouble mode. Most systems were programmed to send test signals in the middle of the night. Most residential clients had a keypad in the master bedroom. Upon a "failure to communicate" trouble condition the keypads would make a racket.
This caused the client to call for service. That in turn gave the alarm company an opportunity to remove their phone numbers from the deadbeat's alarm panel and (sometimes) caused said deadbeat to pay the bill.
I'm not saying who did this, but if you've got a modicum of programming skills and a bit of patience I can teach you how to do it. :^)
Of course, since the whole affair isn't UL you couldn't really use it unless you had a small, non-listed central station. Then again, most of the people who participate here have never touched a UL-listed system anyway so that might not be an issue.
Ahhhhh THERE YOU ARE! Why I thought you were going to ignore me forever. Well ..... at least for as long as you're going to be around ...... anyway.
How would you know what I've installed? And by the very fact that I've been in this trade for 36 years ..... long before there WERE wireless systems, under no unusual circumstances it would be likely that I've installed more wired systems in the 10 to 12 years before wireless systems where available than you did in the actual 10 or so years( out of your debateable 20,) that you actually did installations. As usual you speak before you make futile attempts to make up unproveable stories about people.
Really? Jeeeeeze I really think the chemo is affecting your memory. You'd better go back and read it all again and look up the word inference.
It's only from the fact that you've been caught lying so many times. You know? Remember the part where you made believe that you had come up with some installation ideas and then someone discovered that you'd stolen it from a Sentrol manual? Or when you took my idea about doing Andersen windows and said it was your idea? How about the battery termial leads and the Make My Day thingy on the keypad. I mean, if you've got to steal ideas from others .... and make up obviously wrong stories ....... that kind of says you don't have the experience to think up your own stuff. Tell us now, actually how much of what you know did you steal from that great installer you used to have? Betcha he'd have a lot to say about where all "YOUR" ideas came from.
Nah, actually like others that see you for the son of a bitch that you are, it's you that I'm avoiding. After all, with a record like yours of personally attacking people that call you for the asshole that you really are ..... I think you're just pissed that you can't get at me. What was that statement you made ..... ? something about how you enjoy calling your detractors employers or suppliers ???? Well, sorry fat boy ...... I'm smarter than you are. Oppps. Can't call you FAT ASS anymore .... can I? By the way, meant to ask ............ how's the new cancer diet your on ....going? Jeeeeeze I can't tell you how much I hope it works.
Ya know??? Up till now I always wondered if there was any real justice in this world. Well now I've got proof that there is. Thanks.
Actually we were within a couple of feet of one another at one of the NYC ISC shows, quite a number of years ago. I was standing right behind you almost breathing down your fat neck, while you were trying to tell the Napco reps about how much you know. It was amusing to watch them roll their eyes, as you walked away. We had a good conversation about what an asshole you are and how annoying you are when you call tech support. Oh ..... and with that brief encounter, I've known what the results of a meeting between us would be ..... and you don't. But ..... you'll be happy to know that in your condition, your not going to be around long enough to see it happen anyway.
Hmmmm ..... seems to have had some importance to you though, seeing as you remember details that no one else likely does. Glad to know I'm been that much of a thorn in your side ..... or maybe I should say ...... a growth in you lung.
But, I guess you might be thinking that had you lived a better life you might have lived to have some of those experiences. I guess Billy Joel will have to rename his song "only the good die young" Heh heh heh
Oh .... do let us know when you're near the end ...... will you?
I'd like a little advance warning so I can buy the party favors.
There are a number of reasons why I might not be able to dial into a system.
Takeovers where we jsut swung the lines for one.
I have also discovered that some Napco systems seem to report just fine over a line with DSL, but you can't call in to deprogram them if it doesn't have an Excelsus filter on it.
Its not something I normally have to deal with, but it does come up.
I ignored you for quite a while. Most of what you say is of no value anyway but I thought I'd return a few of your slams just for fgun anyway.
You've bragged about it.
You say that you have but there's no evidence to support that (or any of your other claims either).
You think? Hmm. That's news. FWIW, I haven't yet begun chemo. :^)
You're lying again, Jimbo. I never claimed to have "come up with" anything from the Sentrol manual. I repeated some of their ideas but never claimed them as my own.
Lying again, Jimbo. I never once claimed anything you said was my idea.
Yep, I made a dumb mistake on that one but there was no lie.
Don't get your hopes up, Jimbo. I'll probably outlive you by a few decades.
Neat fiction, Jimbo. Unfortunately, the last time I was at the NY-ISC was quite a few years ago and at the time I weighed about 180. Besides, if you had ever been close to me I'm sure I'd have noticed the odor.
I always enjoy a good comedy, Jimbo. Your tales of great adventures in your rowbo... er, yacht are a popular subject in emails between others who frequent this newsgroup.
Heh. You're just an old fool with a weak ego, trying hard to pretend you're important. Don't kid yourself into thinking you matter.
I've had a good ride but it's nowhere near over yet, pal.
Actually, my pulmonary specialist "explained" why I have cancer when he gave me the initial diagnosis and it seems he must know you. I'll break with my personal rule about cursing in order to relate the conversation to you.
He said, "There's a reason you have cancer."
Surprised, I asked, "How is that?"
He said I seemed like a nice enough guy. And I asked what that has to do with it.
His explanation: "Nice guys get tumors. Assholes get hemmhoroids.
Granted. But probably not as frequently as you post your marvelous installation fairy tales.
Yet there's plenty of "evidence" to support the fact that you *don't* have 20 years of direct installation experience. "Managing" a "modestly successful central station alarm company" is a bit different from doing actual installations/service. ISTR you were also on probation for five years following your conviction for assault with gun in 1979 and
*installed* systems in CT illegally (without a permit) until you got nailed in 1989. I've also seen numerous posts where you quite obviously "bent the rules" on many installations and even go so far as to advocate your customers (and legitimate, licensed installers) do the same.
Actually you posted the information regarding securing a gun cabinet almost word for word from the Sentrol Manual and you did attribute it to yourself. Several here "caught it" and I believe a "snippet" of the original thread found its way onto the "Goofy" site...
No. What you *did* do is frequently use ideas garnered from this Group in the BassHome FAQ without crediting the individual that posted it (saying something like "I got this idea from a security forum" when you knew exactly who posted it).
It's taken you a while to admit to it hasn't it??
It's an outright fabrication. There is *NO WAY* you can get any 32 character two line LCD display to read: "Attention Burglar!" on the first line and "Go Ahead. Make my day." on the second. You have only 16 characters per line to work with. The first line would require 18 spaces. The second would need 22.
You're not above placing phone calls to numerous AHJ's in the Vancouver area lookin' for me. Or faking someone elses Group ID to post a message in a BC based security forum (and compounding it by using an innocent Grade 4 student's email address) in order to try and find out where I work. And to what end?? So you can file more lies like you did with Andy Bowman and Graham?? You're despicable.
Everyone should be on one. Cut out the fried starchy food, stuff high in Nitrites, BBQ, and eat more fruit and green leafy veggies (and broccoli).
I doubt it (and I'm not saying this as a slam). You have made it obvious that on top of your cancer problem, you also have a heart problem... It appears to me that you *are* enjoying life to the max, though. Heck, you may as well... You can't "take it with you" and why leave it all to your wife and kids??
Heh... I'll bet the last time you weighed "180" was sometime *before* your conviction for assault...
"Eau de Bilge Water"?? :-)
Ah, yes... The "many" who "frequent the Group" and carry on a furious email dialogue with you on the side (many of whom are Pilots and Aeronautical Engineers as well).
Pot, Kettle, Black!!
No, but I'll bet you can see the hole at bottom of the hill, though...
I'm glad to see that you have at least the one "personal rule". You're not above lying or using innuendo to denigrate your detractors (where-ever they happen to post).
I've never wished you ill, and I certainly sympathize with your present situation. I lost my father and mother to cancer and know what they endured before the end. I do hope and pray that you won't have to go through what they did because no one deserves that.
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