On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:56:58 -0000, Tx2 spoketh
it's simply a collection of links to other sites that'll "test" your firewall.
There's nothing "wrong" with Sygate regardless of what these tests says. (Well, assuming you haven't made a complete fubar of the configuration)
Lars M. Hansen
How authoritative is this site?
I've never favoured Zone Alarm as I've experienced issues with it in the past, but the site in question ranks it above my current choice.
"Every single POLITICAL MURDER ASSASSINATION, is something that should upset a World bound up in comfort & ready answers"
"Every single POLITICAL MURDER ASSASSINATION, is something that should upset a World bound up in comfort and ready answers"
NEW INFOS. 2005 - INTELLIGENCIA SCOOP.
According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor, Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular Lebanese Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable evidence that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre of hundreds of Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the Lebanese forces who carried out the grisly task. At the time of the massacres, Elie Hobeika was intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian forces in Lebanon who were battling Palestinians and other Muslim groups in a bloody civil war. He was also the chief liaison to Israeli Defense Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An official Israeli inquiry into the massacre at the camps, the Kahan Commission, merely found Sharon "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter and fingered Hobeika as the chief instigator.
The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared to offer a different version of events than what was contained in the Kahan report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was unusual in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality provisions were curtailed.
Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid- 1970s and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent visitor to the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian invasion of Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in the Lebanese government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He also served in the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press conference and announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in Belgium and revealed that he had evidence of what actually occurred in Sabra and Shatilla. Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members of the South Lebanon Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an Israeli Air Force C130 transport plane, in full view of dozens of witnesses, including members of the Lebanese army and others. SLA troops under the command of Major Saad Haddad were slipped into the camps to commit the massacres. The SLA troops were under the direct command of Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent provocateur named Rafi Eitan. Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S. ambassador to Lebanon was aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF had placed a camera in a strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla massacres. Hobeika was going to ask that the footage be released as part of the investigation of Sharon.
After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.
On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled bomb placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of Beirut. The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares Souweidan, Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover past the TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four passengers were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken another route
through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a number of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister, and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the attack.
It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had Washington's fingerprints on it.
High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika employed Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was trying to curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of 9-11 and was more than willing to help the White House. In addition, Assad's father, Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during Desert Storm, a period that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to Syria's occupation of Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any political embarrassment from an in absentia trial in Brussels where Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove and Sharon agreed on the plan to use Syrian Military Intelligence agents to assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in ensuring the loyalty of the Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in the United States. Sharon saw the plan to have the United States coordinate the hit as a way to mask all connections to Jerusalem.
The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already cooperated with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods to extract information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the United States and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take out Hobeika was transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of Syrian military intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three remote controlled cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only few hundred yards from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are stationed in the area near the Presidential palace , the ministry of Defense and various Government and officers quarters . This particular area is covered 24/7 by a very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance system to monitor Syrian and Lebanese security activities and is a " Choice " area to live in for its perceived high security, [Courtesy of the Special Collections Service.] SCS...; CIA & NSA & DIA....etc.
The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans, OSP; & the VP's office would be ensured plausible deniability.
"The significance of this masterpiece is not only the divulsion of facts, but the focus it's made on the covert cooperation between the parties who are playing enemies.... " At the very Least in Lebanon since the 1970s...!!!
Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge of Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned down along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael Nassar's car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline station for repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a silencer, shot Nassar and his wife in the head, killing them both instantly. The assailant fled and was never captured. Nassar was also involved with the Phalange militia at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also reportedly willing to testify against Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd, may have had important evidence to bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon ordered SLA forces into the camps to wipe out the Palestinians.
Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush administration can now add political assassination to its laundry list of other misdeeds, from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture tactics in violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by the Pentagon and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.
Karl Rove's White House " Murder Inc. ".
Tensions in the Middle East have prompted public expressions of anti-U.S. rhetoric and public sentiment. Events in past years in Lebanon, such as bombings directed at U.S. franchises and the November 2002 murder of a U.S. citizen in Sidon, underscore the need for caution and sound personal security precautions. Anti-American demonstrations have occurred in the last
12 months in refugee camps, in the southern suburbs of Beirut and in Beirut proper to protest U.S. foreign policy. In May 2004, an anti-government demonstration in the southern suburbs of Beirut turned violent resulting in the deaths of five demonstrators.It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on Hobeika and his party.... But Listed a small Hand Grenade thrown at a U.S. franchise....? The White House wanted to ensure the attack was censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had Washington's fingerprints on it...Karl Rove's White House " Murder Inc."
This is some of the evidence for you and for the World ....
******************************************************************************* ~encrypted/logs/access ====>> INTELLIGENCE Agencies Servers footprints.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Not to mention hundreds of private companies and governments........! ....See Below :
*******************************************************************************Lines 10-36 of my logfiles show a TREMENDOUS interest in this article:1052
# grep sid=1052 /encrypted/logs/access_log|awk '{print$1,$7}'|sed-n'10,36p'.
spb-213-33-248-190.sovintel.ru /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Soviet/RUSSIAN Intelligence services... ext1.shape.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 NATO Intel. server1.namsa.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Nato Intel. ns1.saclantc.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Strategic Air Command US Intel. bxlproxyb.europarl.eu.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 European Parliament Intel. Unit wdcsun18.usdoj.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Department of Justice... wdcsun21.usdoj.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Department of Justice... tcs-gateway11.treas.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Treasury Department tcs-gateway13.treas.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Treasury Department relay1.ucia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 CIA Langley relay2.cia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 CIA Langley relay2.ucia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 CIA Langley n021.dhs.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Department of Homeland security Intel. legion.dera.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 British Intel. gateway-fincen.uscg.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Pentagon US. crawler2.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Intel.... crawler1.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Intel..... gateway101.gsi.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 British Intel. gate11-quantico.nmci.usmc.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Marine Corps Quantico Virginia Intel. gate13-quantico.nmci.usmc.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 USA Marine Corps Quantico Virginia Intel. fw1-a.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 US Intel SIS. crawler13.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Intel.... fw1-b.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 US Intel. OSIS. bouncer.nics.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 British Intel. beluha.ssu.gov.ua /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052 Ukrainian Intelligence. zukprxpro02.zreo.compaq.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052.... Intel....
Tiny Firewall is similar also..
It is ??
Whilst I agree it does have links to a variety of tests, it also seems to be a bit more than that; there's certainly extensive opinion offered, which prompted me to ask the question how authoritative it is.
Some sites are more respected than others, even though they themselves are but opinions ... is this one of them?
No, perhaps you misunderstand? I didn't mean (nor does the site say) that there is anything wrong with the operation of Sygate, just that Zone Alarm may have been a better option over and above Sygate.
I don't believe i have.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:10:51 -0000, Tx2 spoketh
It appears the owner has done quite a bit of research when putting up this site. I haven't read the whole thing, but I quickly scanned some of it, and it's in general following the "best practice" guidelines...
The question you have to ask yourself is this: how likely to do you think it is that you'll get any application on your computer that'll be using any of these "leak" methods to get through your software firewall. Just because methods exists to bypass software firewalls, that doesn't mean that your firewall is worthless. This software needs to find a way to get on your computer first, and if you are following many of the "best practice" guidelines out there, then it's not very likely that this will happen.
Lars M. Hansen
It is a highly regarded site and mentioned on many firewall and security forums like wilders.That said (and i guess youve looked at the test comparisons page for firewalls)theres new leaktests coming out all the time and practically all need user intervetion to execute them first,and many dont even run on older operating systems.As you will notice wallbreaker circumvents all the firewalls listed , so its best to use a bit of common sense and choose the firewall that works best on your system.If your going to swap and choose a firewall on the basis of leaktest results , then youll be installing and uninstalling firewalls regularly.Stick with the one that runs best on your machine , and use layred security such as processguard
If you want opinions then try this
Jason
If that's too many then you can make it more relevant by reducing it to 6500 opinions like this :)
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Ah, thank you.
I don't want opinions on leak tests. I was asking how authoritative the site in question is regarded.
yes ... absolutely.
Yes I thought you'd say that, so my advice would be to make sure you use THE MOST POWERFUL SECURITY PROGRAM FOR WINDOWS
It's only $40 for an unlimited license and if you can afford to send them $4000 it's well worth it in your case.
Jason
I think you've lost the plot somewhere along the line...
It's really not important to me even if I did.
What was your question again? Oh something about some site. I prefer to come to my own conclusions on what is authoritative. One way to do that is to read a lot. No-one else is going to do your reading for you.
Jason
No, but understanding your answers helps your peers.
How authoritative is the site?
Yes, that's right Jason, something about a site. [i can see where this is going]
After taking all consideration into account I'm sure.
Exactly what i've done with regard this site, proceeding to then ask how authoritative it might be considered by others.
I haven't asked anyone to.
Fair enough. In that case I think it's going to be impossible for you to get anything other than opinions, which you didn't ask for :) Sometimes I prefer not to give my own opinions where other peoples' sites are concerned except to point out that there are as many sites as there are opinions.
Maybe others can give better help in this case.
Jason
Can the site be considered authoritative, yes or no?
Not - can you please tell me if the content of this site, the links therein, the software reviews, the 'league' tables, the etc etc is authoritative.
There is a difference, maybe you don't see it the way i do.
I don't have a problem with that.
Having seen a reference to Wilders, I'm sure they can.
My reply is that you should ask someone whom you consider to be an authority.
If there are other people here who wish to answer your question then they can do so.
Jason
Actually, if you *really* think you need tight component control and are concerned about trojans, take a look at BlackIce. After you install it and run an initial baseline on a system you know is *clean* (including the absence of any leak-test programs), any executable that attempts to run will be stopped until you approve it. This is regardless of whether or not it is a program that would ask for internet access.
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