Cisco MTBF

Jan 11, 2006 5 Replies
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As part of the construction of a new depot, a network is being designed and installed by a sub-contractor to the builders. The designer of the network had originally planned to use three 4500 chassis's with 3750's and 2950's in the remaining locations. He has since learnt that Cisco have stopped issuing MTBF figures for the 4500 models and decided to use



3750's instead. Not only that, he is going to link modules in the stack via Gb ports rather than make use of the stacking facility (he seems to feel there is an advantage but I can't see it).

Technically our company is not the customer to the builders even though the site gets passed over to us on completion (don't ask!), so we would have to convince the body having the depot built that the 4500 option is the better one. The spec' for the network specifies reliability and MTBF comes into that, hence the designer going for devices that Cisco quote MTBF figures for.



My gut feeling is that the 4500 should have a better reliability than



3750's (and the like) when setup with redundant power supplies and redundant supervisor cards, as per the one I installed in the head office.

What do you guys think? And why would Cisco stop publishing figures for the 4500 range? It almost suggests it was becoming unreliable so they didn't want people to find out the easy way - well, would you?


Ian

WRT to EOL on the 4500, this may help

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Steve

In message , Steve Ray scribes

Thanks Steve but that references the EOL of one card which is being replaced by another. It is not saying that they have EOL'ed the 4500.

There are MTBF statements:-

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Says:-

"results in a very high mean time between failures (MTBF)" again.

That is an interesting puzzle indeed.

In message , Ian Snowdon scribes

Contacted Cisco and their response is that we/someone would have to contact a Channel Partner and sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Odd!

That rather implies that the 4500 range is unreliable. Hopefully that isn't the case as we have a 4510 in the LAN room feeding the other switch stacks in the head office. Ho hum.

Hello, Ian! You wrote on Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:54:31 GMT:

??>> As part of the construction of a new depot, a network is being ??>> designed and installed by a sub-contractor to the builders. The ??>> designer of the network had originally planned to use three 4500 ??>> chassis's with 3750's and 2950's in the remaining locations. He ??>> has since learnt that Cisco have stopped issuing MTBF figures ??>> for the 4500 models and decided to use 3750's instead.

IS> Contacted Cisco and their response is that we/someone would have IS> to contact a Channel Partner and sign a non-disclosure agreement.

IS> Odd!

IS> That rather implies that the 4500 range is unreliable. Hopefully IS> that isn't the case as we have a 4510 in the LAN room feeding the IS> other switch stacks in the head office. Ho hum.

I'm not sure how it works in Europe, but in US I'm getting MTBF from my account manager at Cisco. If there is no MTBF for 4500 indeed, one of the reasons might be that 4500 is modular box and MTBF will depend on configuration. So while there might be no single figure for generic spherical 4500 in vacuum, I can bet there is numbers out there for all 4500 series components.

With best regards, Andrey.

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