If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to

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If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower  
you're currently connected to, and it will track your movements.

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Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
David Howard wrote:

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If you read the original paper, it isn't clear this works on all systems.  
And apparently it is an issue with SMS. You can and I have requested that  
SMS be blocked with my carrier.  

http://berlin.ccc.de/~tobias/25c3-locating-mobile-phones.pdf

SMS is a terrible security issue from many aspects. The "silent ping" RDF  
being the worst of the security issues. Just block it at the carrier.  

Even the iphone now has push capability these days, so there is no need for  
SMS.  


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:18:03 -0800, miso wrote:

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How do you get texts on iOS/Android without SMS?


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 02:49:14 +0000 (UTC), David Howard asked:

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Same way you get them anywhere: ASCII email :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
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Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
tlvp wrote:

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Right, but with push email and especially IMAP, it is pretty quick.

But you can use a number of cross platform message systems. BBM, ChatSecure,  
etc. for instance if you need real time.


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Those other solutions are all non-starters if they need the other party to
be using the same system. Then again, if they go through an SMS gateway and
provide universal text reachability, what's the point of not just using SMS
in the first place? Sounds like a lose/lose.


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
Char Jackson wrote:

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They don't use SMS. Only imessage uses SMS. (It is quite the fiasco when you  
go from iphone to anything else since apple leaches onto your SMS.)

BBM, Chatsecure, Whatapps, Beem, Ansa, etc are all just a download away.



Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to

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OK, so non-starters then. Thanks.


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
Char Jackson wrote:

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A non-starter I suppose if you don't know how to download an app. That is  
beyond the capability of my grandmother. Then again, she is dead.

Whatsapp just added encryption. It is now the favorite of the Mexican drug  
cartels. But hey, you just keep on SMSing. The NSA needs something to read.
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/11/narcos-use-whatsapp.html

Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to

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I think you missed my point, or maybe I misunderstood earlier. *I* have no
problem downloading an app, but the non-starter aspect comes in when there's
a requirement for the people on the other end to also download that app.


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
Char Jackson wrote:

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You would be amazed at how little is just handed to me on a silver platter.





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I haven't graduated to tin foil just yet.


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 02:08:20 -0800, miso wrote:

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What does Apple do to SMS?


Re: If you feed Skylock a phone number, it will tell anyone what tower you're connected to
David Howard wrote:

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I own nothing from Apple, so all I know is what I read in the press.

http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-must-go-to-court-over-disappearing-imessage-fiasco-judge-says/

Since imessage is not cross platform, it is pretty useless to me.  

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