Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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I have recently had Slomins security (a central station alarm
management company) install an alarm system in my house. They used a
Napco Gemini 816 Central Controller. I'm trying to tie this into a
home automation system I am starting to build. I see there is an X10
integration module I can purchase (GEM-X10). I will be installing 3-
way Switchlinc dimmer switches (2494m3) for my lights, which support
both the Switchlinc protocol and X10 protocol.

The following are some reference links for the products mentioned
above:

Napco Gemini 816 Central Controller:
http://www.basshome.com/napco_gemini_p816_662_ctg.htm

X10 integration module:
http://www.napcosecurity.com/testframe.html?g-24gemx10.html

Switchlinc dimmer switches:
http://www.smarthome.com/2494m3.html

I have all the installation and configuration docs in PDF format which
I can send to anyone interested.

What I want to do initially is have an event from the Napco Gemini 816
(e.g. Alarm triggered) to send an X10 command to all dimmer switches
to turn all of the lights connected through these dimmer switches.

Before I purchase all of this equipment, I have a few questions:

1) Do I need to reconfigure the Napco Gemini 816 Central Controller
for the X10 module? Do I need an "installers password" which would
have been installed by Slomins?

2) Is there anything I am missing or is this a pretty straightforward
thing to set up?

3) Any "gotchas" I need to worry about?

Thanks!


Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
GEM X10 doesn't work with GEM 816


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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
It does with the GEM P816 revision 10, up to 8 devices

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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
Sir,

The P816 does not support the GEM-X10 module.  You'll need either a P1632, P3200
or P9600 control panel to do X10.  Also, if you
want to do more than very basic (lights on alarm, for example) automation, the
preferred panel is the P9600.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
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I wasn't sure so I asked Napco tech
support.  They said it wouldn't work.
You do need the installer's code to
change the program though.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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That goes against what is found in the latest revision of the 816
installation manual



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
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I didn't check the manual.  I needed to
contact Napco about something else so
I asked.  They said it won't work.  I
haven't tried it.  If you have one, try it
yourself and let us know how it works.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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Okay, you send me the 816 and X-10 module and I'll give it a whirl



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So you don't know either?



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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I merely stated that the instructions for the P816 v10 mention that it is
compatible with the X-10 module



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
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Yes, and I merely stated that Napco tech
support said it won't.  Apparently you've
not tried it.  Neither have I.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
So tell us Marky-Mark,
Do you believe EVERYTHING you read?


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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
Installation manuals do tend to be reasonably accurate and as of yet nobody
has shown that it will not work (yet)

The original poster may not have the most up to date revision

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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
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Napco has made a few changes to
several of their panels recently.  I
didn't ask the TS guy if this was
something new or old.  I have no need
to call them for now.  If you have time
you might check for yourself.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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Recently? Try 2004



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
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Do you know to which changes I was referring?

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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One could assume since the subject was X10 then the changes would have been
about......X10

Shot in the dark anyway



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Nope.  They now support HA with the
P3200 (again).  They had dropped HA
support for a while but recently brought
it back.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller

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Well see there's the problem, the conversation was about the P816



Re: Tying in GEM-X10 into Napco Gemini 816 Alarm System Controller
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The point is they make changes.
There are four possibilities:

1. Napco changed the P816 and
it's not reflected in the document
which you read.

2. Napco's tech support guy made
a mistake.

3. You misunderstood the document.

4. I misunderstood him.

Then again, you insist that there is no
#4 so...  :^)

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota Florida 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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