Ethernet LAN gigabit switch that supports jumbo frames?

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gigabit switch that supports jumbo frames? peter 11-28-06
Posted by peter on November 28, 2006, 8:46 pm
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I'm looking for 8-port gigabit switch (home LAN, under $100). I looked up
two cheapest ones (netgear, trendnet) and found someone complaining about
jumbo frames not working.

Is there a review or some ways to find gigabit switch that is verified to
work with jumbo frames?



Posted by Rick Jones on November 29, 2006, 3:19 pm
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> I'm looking for 8-port gigabit switch (home LAN, under $100). I looked up
> two cheapest ones (netgear, trendnet) and found someone complaining about
> jumbo frames not working.

> Is there a review or some ways to find gigabit switch that is verified to
> work with jumbo frames?

Ah the joys of the IEEE refusing to produce a standard for a larger
frame size for "ethernet" :)

Support for _which_ jumbo frame? Since there is no de jure standard,
different vendors have different definitions as to what is a "jumbo
frame." For some, they hew to the line initiated by Alteon and define
it as an MTU of 9000 bytes. Others only 8XXX. Some up to 16XXX. And
some may claim support for jumbo frames with something as low as
2XXX. (Although that one is a rather vague recollection)

IMPO "jumbo frame" is at least 9000 byte MTU. Anything less is
wimping-out.

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Posted by Rick Jones on November 30, 2006, 1:59 pm
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[ reposting with NNN rather than the previous placeholder soas to not
trip over simplistic content filters... ]


> I'm looking for 8-port gigabit switch (home LAN, under $100). I
> looked up two cheapest ones (netgear, trendnet) and found someone
> complaining about jumbo frames not working.

> Is there a review or some ways to find gigabit switch that is
> verified to work with jumbo frames?

Ah the joys of the IEEE refusing to produce a standard for a larger
frame size for "ethernet" :)

Support for _which_ jumbo frame? Since there is no de jure standard,
different vendors have different definitions as to what is a "jumbo
frame." For some, they hew to the line initiated by Alteon and define
it as an MTU of 9000 bytes. Others only 8NNN. Some up to 16NNN. And
some may claim support for jumbo frames with something as low as
2NNN. (Although that one is a rather vague recollection)

IMPO "jumbo frame" is at least 9000 byte MTU. Anything less is
wimping-out.

rick jones
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Process shall set you free from the need for rational thought.
these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :)
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Posted by Marris on November 30, 2006, 3:32 pm
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As a matter of interest why do you want to use jumbo frames?

Using jumbo frames can actually slow transmission down because they need
more buffering.

> I'm looking for 8-port gigabit switch (home LAN, under $100). I looked up
> two cheapest ones (netgear, trendnet) and found someone complaining about
> jumbo frames not working.
>
> Is there a review or some ways to find gigabit switch that is verified to
> work with jumbo frames?
>



Posted by Rick Jones on December 1, 2006, 1:50 pm
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> Using jumbo frames can actually slow transmission down because they
> need more buffering.

Hmm, I'm not sure what that referrs to. I know that using JumboFrames
can have applications interact with the nagle Algotirhm when they
didn't before, and I suppose might affect how many segments per
window. Is that what you meant?

Otherwise, using JumboFrames significantly reduces the CPU overhead of
transferring data.

rick jones
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