Re: Ultra Wide Band?

Arlen is like rust. Never sleeps. No added value.

And yet, there is added value in the link provided which Apple will never give you because the link shows Apple is profiting by selling your tracking location data.

Don't you ever think WHY only Apple refuses to allow you to turn UWB off?

Remember, Apple leads you iSheep to slaughter, which is why you can't use an iPhone without logging into Apple's 24/7/356 tracking account, and if it's an iPhone 11 or newer, every location movement is now tracked by UWB.

Apple sells your private location tracking information - tied to your ID!

You can deny that added information is of any value to you, but for those who care about their privacy - it's extremely useful information to know.

1. You provide no evidence for your assertion.
2. You're Arlen.

Sure:

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You denied the evidence without even clicking on the link provided.

Only Apple prevents you from turning off UWB. Every other platform but iOS with UWB allows users basic privacy.

But not Apple.

Worse, you're logged into Apple servers 24/7/365 for your location tracking to be tied to your unique AppleID (which you can't remove from iOS).

Android allows you to remove the tracking account. iOS doesn't. Android allows you to turn off UWB & still use the phone; iOS doesn't.

The reason Android allows it is that it's important for privacy. The reason Apple doesn't is explained in the article you didn't read.

Apple profits greatly from denying its users this basic UWB privacy. Says so in the link already provided (that you didn't click on).

Do not respond until/unless you show you've clicked on the link. Here it is again for you to again & again claim it doesn't exist.

A fear mongering article that is full of errors doesn't impress much.

Apple only advertises privacy but Apple never provides any privacy.

"In a recent empirical study Martin, Kirsten E., and Helen Nissenbaum show that "that [UWB] tracking an individual's place - home, work, shopping - is seen to violate privacy expectations, even without directly collecting GPS data, that is, standard markers representing location in technical systems."" If Apple actually cared about privacy, Apple would allow you to turn off UWB and still use the phone but Apple won't give you that basic privacy.

Because Apple is profiting from selling your location information.

"One recent incident report by Brian Kreb, details how Apple continues to collect location information, despite location-based system services being disabled. According to Brian, Apple's response stated, "this behavior is tied to the inclusion of a new short-range technology that lets iPhone 11 users share files locally with other nearby phones that support this feature, and that a future version of its mobile operating system will allow users to disable it"."

Nope. I clicked on it.

There is literally not a single word about:

'Apple sells your private location tracking information - tied to your ID!'

Interesting you snipped that, hmmm?

You've still not provided any evidence at all that Apple "sells" any tracking information.

It's quite clear you've never read anything other than Apple slick white papers and ads, as Google was forced to belatedly include a switch to turn UWB off - which was widely reported - and yet Apple refused you that basic privacy (because Apple profits greatly from selling your location data).

You're completely clueless about Apple, but even Apple was forced to address some of the U1 UWB privacy issues - which is news you missed.

Yet even today, only Apple doesn't allow users the basic privacy right to turn UWB off, which means anyone can easily track iPhone users everywhere they go. Apple even sells that private location data to advertisers.

"The proliferation of UWB in cell phones enables scenarios where the locations and movements of every person with a UWB device can be precisely tracked with UWB sensors mounted in inconspicuous places."

Before you respond, you have to address why only Apple doesn't allow anyone with an iPhone 11 or higher to have the basic privacy of turning UWB off.

You keep saying that...

...but you've presented no evidence to support it.

That last URL doesn't even mention location privacy, Arlen.

'Apple also stressed it doesn’t use the UWB feature to collect user location data, and that this location checking resided “entirely on the device.” Still, it’s nice that iPhone 11 users will now have a setting to disable the feature if they want.'

Yup. Just lame.

Nope. You're just nym switcing and trolling, as usual.