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Feb 27, 2007 40 Replies

Ya, so what's the point? With all the personal flame throwing that has resulted because of you-know-who, I have lost respect for many of the regulars that post here. The damage has been done. Even if the head is displayed on a pike during a parade there is too much history to repair the damage done by all the infighting and side taking.

It's really no wonder why so many have left, never to return. When you've seen the underbelly of the beast, you can't look at it's face the same way. Let's face it, most here (myself included) can be real assholes. F*ck being nice. Nice died a long time ago.

Nobody will post anything of real value anymore for fear of their "tricks" and "secrets" being exploited. You're guilty of that yourself (think Pella windows), although I can't say I blame you. It's dog-eat-dog, and that's a real f****ng shame.

Many have offered to get a private dealer-only web forum started, but that idea has failed to gain any popularity. Until people start feeling safe from personal attacks.... and even worse, real world incursions; this place will remain the "cesspool" it has become, and the "gems" will be harder and harder to mine.

Proper chip puller eh? I use a paper clip :)

You have been given a task Tom, stop asking stupid questions and do your job!

years of noise cant be push away in a few days...

we need some quiet time before being able to listen a bit..

Yah but leaning over the top of a refrigerator whilst standing sideways on a ladder in a small and very cluttered laundry room....sheeesh.

BTW...read my other post in this thread abt this job...the freekin client was a lunatic and is in process of trying to screw me.

7845GSM | > worked perfectly except for the ECP wiring being opposite what you'd | expect | > from Ademco...out from pnl actually goes to in on radio - once we realized | > that it was a snap. | >

| > oh yah...if anyone is gonna do this...I HIGHLY recommend the proper chip | > puller !! I didn't remember to bring one and had to make one out of thhn | > which ended up breaking off the corners of the mount...scarey. | | Proper chip puller eh? I use a paper clip :) | | >

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ok you want some info on some big nice job..

here's one i will be working on today...

I installed an ip camera system lately,its parse between 9 building,and monitor parking lot..

its all hooked up with wireless link(a special product that work on 2.4 and

5.8 ghz,but not in the same modulation type as normal 802.11b-g do)

we have 5 to 9 cam by site

its all connected to 5 ND-300 from panaonic

we use the 244,1004 and 324 camera from panasonic...

it wass fun to plan for the job ,all the ip segment and configuration of the routers,so that the customer can watch all his cam in real time,now with the mpeg4 stream the can can do,its like watching an analog cam but with a much better definition...

the aiming of the antenna was fun too...the longest run between 2 building is about 1.5 kilometer..

all is ok,just one thing,incompatibility of some lens with the 244...will change them today...it will be around 32 celsius here so,its a good day to do it..working outside with the sun shining after the long night of winter will be much more fun then working beind a computer screen..

I will take some shot of the project and post them in on a web site that share photo..

"Jim" a écrit dans le message de news: snipped-for-privacy@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Yeah, but he's talking about IC's, not chocolate chips. js

messagenews: snipped-for-privacy@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Ummmm, Ok .....if you want to ......

Just feels good to hold a normal conversation with people who you know are regular folks, just hangin and not looking to be super critical.

And you can do that and still "protect" yourself. As far as "secrets" if I don't want to provide any information .... I don't. When I do, it's for all to see. As I'm sure you realize, It's the explotation of it, that's the problem. No one likes to be used especially if it's blatant.

Well ..... maybe Tom does. But that's because of amputation injury he got many years ago, from falling cereal boxes.

Sounds like a great job.

Do you or does anyone know if there's a web site that gives basic information to a beginner about setting up IP addresses? Most things like this I just have an instinct for, but for some reason, I just can't seem to latch on to the process.

I'd like to see the pic's of the job.

I had a chip puller once, lost it after a few days but there is an almost unlimited supply of paper clips

"Jim" a écrit dans le message de news: snipped-for-privacy@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...

On the ip side of thing,we are on the same boat.I've learned the hard way... trial and error...

I have seen on the web some calculator for netmask and such,but not much of a whole training for it...

what you need to do is take a small book about tcp ip,dont go with the large

600 page thing...

you allready know a lot,just read the book to wrap it all up...

I took the photo,will take more in a few days,I didnt had access to the DVR and the cabinet yesterday,the acces control that is supplied by someone else was down and the door to the server room was shut down, the electro was not giving up....what a mess this job,i did offer to fix it,but its still under warranty...

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This is a great 12 minute "movie" that will explain everything you'll need to know about the basics in a non-technical way.

After watch>> ok you want some info on some big nice job..

A bloody finger works fine too. I used it all the time back in the PROM days of alarm panels. You could never drop a PROM chip if two or three of the pins were stuck in your finger.

Thanks Roland I'll give it a look later tonight.

Try your finger on a Vista 20p chip...you'd need teensy tiny fingers!

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Never tried that one. I always had the other Ademco, or Radionics, or Napco, or Acron PROM chips harpon me.

Question: why didn't you FIRE him a long time ago? Do you know the saying, "sometimes you have to lose money to make money"... :-))

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