Suggestion for box where alarm monitoring failovers from landline to cell phone - when landline is cut.

I lost my temper. It was 30 years ago. Since then I grew up. What happened to you?

Wrong again. In Florida, "assault" means to threaten. Striking someone is called "battery"

once mentioned the gun was a "replica". In fact,

You're lyine (again). I never said any such thing. But then, lying is your stock in trade. Flown any inverted 737's lately?

What happened to me ?, I grew up without assaulting, killing or maiming anyone, pretty unremarkable really, a lot of people seem to manage it.

Assaulting someone with a replica gun doesn't seem to me as something that typically occurs when throwing a tantrum, while not as familiar with assault and battery as you seem to be, I would imagine most attacks that result from a loss of control use the nearest available object as a weapon. The use of a gun, real or otherwise tends to suggest a planned assault or robbery.

I would suggest anger management to control your temper.

Doug

No doubt, if you had your response in CHA would likely to have been to deny the assault ever took place, oh well such is life.

Doug

Your off topic political statements with which you have been bombarding newsgroups with recently offer no value either, but that doesn't stop you posting them. Why don't you get your own house in order before trying to tell others what is or isn't acceptable.

Doug.

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But this device can interfere with the section that is under contract... most contract if not all say that not providing a telephone line for the alarm panel will void the liability of the monitoring station,and a cellular back up that simulate a hard line is NOT a phone line..

the alarm panel never been tested to work with the cellular back up and the panel maker will say that it wont support it..and wont be held responsible if anything occurs...

they will simply protect there ass,as any one would do especialy in the state,where anyone can sue you for a fart..

bAss stop putting anyone under big problem,just for a few bucks,if you want to sell to diy that want to mess with there loved one life,fine,but for people under contract you should at least tell them that if they mess with there alarm system,they will have a hard time proving that what they did ,didn't prevent the normal operation of the alarm system,and that in front of a judge that don't understand a zeta about alarm system when there insurance co wont pay for the damage...

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Putting weight on your body is not growing up......

so since chimo is making you loose weight ,you must be receding....

ever speak of ingenuity, integrity, honesty or

That's probably because they've never been called into question... Unlike you...

over ruled by the court because of the professional alarm

professional alarm companies have been sued. It has

In this instance, you're completely wrong (as usual). One of the customer's employees actually bypassed the fire zone because of numerous falses from the fire alarm panel. The judge in the case held Chubb partially responsible because there was no evidence they had ever complied with the ULC certificate's requirements of an annual inspection (the certificate is issued for five years and requires annual checks and signatures to remain in full force and effect).

customer provides his own cellular backup his

Standard contract wording should include:

"The Subscriber shall forthwith notify *** of any structural alteration or any other modification which might affect the Alarm System or the operation thereof. Any alteration of the Alarm System which may thereby become necessary shall be made by *** at the Subscriber?s expense."

"No repairs, replacements and adjustments shall be made to the Alarm System by any person other than a duly authorized representative of ***."

Wrong. If the contract is voided by something the customer does (adding a component such as cellular backup on his own), the company can void the contract and any monitoring or service charges to the end of the contract term becomes immediately due and payable. If the customer doesn't own the equipment in the first place, that means he loses his alarm system as well.

doesn't have to provide monitoring services. Suffice it to

off the hook just because they install their own

I figure the individual that has "no idea what he's talking about" is you. I'd suggest you have another look at that Slomins contract you "say" you've read.

Prove it Bass. Where do I work? Post the name of my company.

You know... I've never collected a pay-cheque as "Olson". My license isn't in that name either. I'm not in the least surprised no one's heard of me.

that you had been there but had left.

Now this statement is particularly remarkable. Where did you ever dream up something like this??!! And who's the "woman at one company"??

once mentioned the gun was a "replica". In fact,

Oh?? I've never lied in this forum (or in any other).

You mean you don't "recall saying it". That's fine.

Really? Prove it.

I've never flown any inverted 737's. I've flown *in* one *once*.

Probably *after* he obtained their Power of Attorney and their house. I wonder if he used a "replica" here too? ;-)

If this is true, then it would appear that you have been stalking him in the real world, something that you routinely accuse others of doing to you.

pot-kettle-black

Doug

He has been "stalking" me. He even posted a message on a BC Security website asking about me. He logged in as one of his former "detractors" (Jake). The message, however, originated with his Florida Comcast account and IP. He doesn't know me, or where I work. The only "counter" we have is right in front of the receptionists desk and we don't sell parts across it. In fact, we have very few "walk-in" clients. I did manage to get a new Rigid Tools Calender from my rep though... "Youza!" :-)

contract, not mine. It was in fact originally written

never worked in the US. Your parents fled the country

I am glad eveyone here feels up to handing out free legal advice. Personally I have no respect for the current legal system. That was beaten out of me long ago. It was solidified when I was arrested and the arresting officers said we know you are not guility of this, this is our own paperwork screw up. So as a gesture of respect we will handcuff you from the front only. The only thing fair or just in my experience that has come out of a courthouse at any level has been purely accidental. So respect no, terror? Absolutely. I don't know how many of you guys have been in court and on the stand but for me it has been beyond plenty. I am convinced the easy part of the bar exam includes recounting techniques for crawling over your dying mother to rape your dead sister. It's easy because that is showing what for most attorneys is their good side.

If either side of this silly argument (that you have been posting back and forth about) has any legal standing and real money to put up as a retainer, there are plenty of members of the bar that would take this case. It wouldn't matter to them which side was right in any way, just which side had the bigger checkbook dedicated to the win. That is the side that would win every time. Of course not on the first round generally, but when it nears final appeal (on a golf course somewhere) the "green" will work its magic. It always does. Thinking that there is an absolute right or wrong side of this debate to prevail on its own merits (and that actually matters to someone in or around a courthouse) simply reflects lack of experience.

If there has to be a debate about something, let's see how many angels can fit on the head of a pin instead. That one is lawyer proof I hope.

I find that discriminatory to the atheist's among us

Doug

Unfortunately, if the case ends up in court a tragedy will likely have occurred. The whole point behind the argument (I think) is to avoid trouble in the first place.

I think the trouble in the first place is the customer suspects he is getting poor customer service or value for the dollar he is spending with his current provider for some reason. I am not familiar with the company you mention so I don't know if that is typical or not. I have spent far more time than quoted getting wireless back up systems to work properly and sometimes feel lucky if I break even. I suspect you may have too. I don't see them as a big revenue source but more of an extra service to a customer that wants one. I have not installed that many personally, probably 50 if I were to count. Unfortunately not 50 of one type or brand. There is (old) Radionics Radio, (older) Adcor, DSC Skyroute, Telugard, Alarnet C. Uplink, etc. Now because of the AMPS sunset thing I have an additional dozen or so Uplink 1500s to swap out and get back for credit before Nov 6, 2006. Although the concept of wireless backup is simple enough, of all the items that are easy for an end user to install this whole product category probably isn't one. I almost always end up with a butt set in one ear checking signals and a cell phone in the other with tech support, especially if there is a silent panic or medical to send. I noticed many folks posting with free legal advice. Would a real lawyer post here giving free advice? Who goes to a plumber to get their teeth fixed? I don't believe adding contract disputes and lawyers to the mix is very helpful. Especially since I think in the original post someone was looking for a simple equipment suggestion. Perhaps a "after checking your attorney to see if your contract allows this" you may wish to try (fill in the blank) product. I suspect by now the poor cutomer has left this thread shaking his head convinced no one posting here has any idea of what they are talking about.

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Let's stipulate that for any atheists the answer is any real number that less than or equal to zero. For believers we can site Second Hesitations for chapter and verse reference to the validity of the above numbering schema.