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Uh-huh... I'll bet you have... you should include "replicas" in that statement...

When I taught hand to hand combat in the Marines one of our favorite sayings was that noting will take the fight out of a man quicker than a gaping hole in his chest...

Now there's an attitude adjustment...

I once watched a guy in a "muscle car" tailgating some guy for several miles on the highway. The guy in the sports car was really harassing the other guy. I have no idea what precipitated it but this was classic road rage.

They got off at the same exit as I did. At the end of the ramp there was a red light. When we all stopped the guy in the sports car got out and strode up to the other guy's window.

The smaller guy got out of his car, jumped up about two feet, kicked the air three times *really* fast before landing and assumed a fighting stance. The big guy turned around without a word and strode directly back to his car.

As they pulled away I noticed the bumper sticker on the smaller guy's car with the name of his Tae Kwon Do academy on it. Nice!

Yes he did. he purchased a firearm legally and then used it to commit a heinous crime. Was it the sellers fault? the School's? The nation's? Your's? Mine? That the guy was mentally unstable is very apparent now, but he passed all the criteria for the purchase. when a person is fanatical, as he seemed to be, you cannot guard against that. no laws, cameras, or alarm systems can guard against someone who doesn't value human life.

That doesn't make any difference to liberals. They think they'll make a good impression by calling for more gun laws that only affect law abiding citizens. They lament .... well if it saves the life of OOOOOOONE person, it's worth passing unenforceable laws that affect 5 million law abiding people.

These events always seems to ignore the fact that someone like this psychotic could have disabled the fire alarms and set the dorms on fire at night, Set pipe bombs around to go off in highly populated areas. Could have run into classes chopping people to death with machetes or serialy abducting and killing people over a long period of time by suffocation.

All of which would have still had some Democrap standing up in front of the Senate calling for more gun control.

Certainly a trigger guard would have prevented this terrible event. What harm could it do to pass a law like that? Why for sure, if someone didn't use their trigger guard and another person was harmed because of it, we could prosecute the gun owner. Of course, the dead person would still be dead, however.

But to keep it in line with the Democraps way of thinking, it would foster the creation of ANOTHER govenment agency called the In Home Trigger Guard Checking Police, to make sure the law was being obeyed. This agency would also have jurisdiction over the removal of "Do not remove" pillow tags.

On Apr 20, 1:43 pm, Jim wrote:

I've been following this horrible event as has everyone else, and now that all the "talking heads" have finished with their two bit amateur analysis, and the real facts are coming in, some things seem inevitable. Those who would see more gun control are as usual climbing on their favourite hobby horse (to quote the Virginia governor) and pushing their personal agendas. Even here in Canada, the usual crowd are calling for additional controls !!

And just so you know what Canadians have to do to get a handgun right now, let me tell you. 1- Pass a government sanctioned training course that is different from long guns and more stringent 2- Apply for a PAL (Possession and Aquisition License), good for five years, and only obtained after you have been investigated by the police, after your spouse signs off you are mentally sound and no danger to her, and you get references from someone in authority...and finally pay $80 and wait for six to 10 weeks for the permit to come in the mail. Then you trundle down to your local gunshop, choose your gun (assuming he even has one you want), pay your money, and call the Canadian Firearms Centre to get an ATT (Authorization to Transport)...takes a week or so, which allows you a few hours to pick it up and take it back to the place where it is registered to be stored (usually your home). Now....this gun cannot leave the premises without another permit, and can only be TRANSPORTED under lock and key, with a trigger lock to an authorized range to be shot. While in the house, it must be secured in a gun safe. And that permit is only available through the range, and is good for one year....this is a straight line from your home to the club and back only. If you are caught doing anything unlawful in the way of carrying outside the bounds of your permit, you lose it, plus your freedom for five years. AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR SOME !! Also, bear in mind that bureaucrats have been given the power to make additional restrictions as they see fit without the need to seek government approval (this is perhaps the scariest part of our horrible mess of laws - not even considering the $2 billion dollar long gun registry which is hopelessly snarled in red tape, politics, inaccurate records and government bureaucracy).

At the height of the news about this massacre, Canadian gun control advocates were pressing the government once again for more gun control. The mayor of Toronto is calling for an outright ban on handguns in Canada, to follow what a desperate Liberal Prime Minister was calling for during the last election. The Liberal government's official position is to ban all "semi automatic" firearms, as is that of the far left socialist party the NDP (amazing to anyone of sound mind how gun control advocates always dwell on insignificant issues like different action types, as if the type of firearm being used as a weapon had something to do with it's misuse....)

None of this stopped a madman from killing 19 women in one incident and another madman from shooting and killing another student at schools in Montreal, plus another couple of shootings that I can think of out west, and also in Germany.

Bottom line, this guy gave off all the signals and no one picked up on it. So rather than deal with the real problems, every gun hater and urban paranoid drags out their favourite red herring and legal gun owners end up having to duck once again.

After 40 years of fighting this shit in Canada, I think I've seen it all....there are some truisms in this gun control debate which cross all borders and cultures:

1- No amount of gun control is good enough for some people 2- Whether you believe it or not, their ultimate goal is the total abolition of all firearms from the hands of ordinary citizens (see UN resolution for proof of that) 3- The push for gun control will always increase and they will ultimately win big time (as they have in Canada) unless every shooter and legal gun owner stands up and fights like hell to keep these dreamers at bay. 4- Gun control advocates love statistics, and use them at every opportunity to distort facts to suit their goals. 5- With the misuse of firearms portrayed daily on TV and in movies, it is not likely that the non shooting urban masses will ever come to see things the way we do. That part is a losing proposition. 5- Politicians of all stripes have shown they are incapable of dealing rationally and fairly with this issue. They are not to be trusted - period !! The only thing that keeps them at bay is POLITICAL POWER within the shooting community and their risk of not being elected if they alienate gun owners!!

Frankly, you guys in the USA don't know how lucky you are to have a strong NRA with a Second Amendment to give you some protection in law. But you can still never take anything for granted. What they can't win through the front door, they will sneak in through the back, one small step at a time. Frankly, I'm looking forward to moving to Florida for half the year where I can shoot all I want without looking over my shoulder for a cop. Down in Florida, the only cop around will likely be shooting on the range right along with me.

RHC

can't argue with that.

That doesn't make any difference to liberals. They think they'll make a good impression by calling for more gun laws that only affect law abiding citizens. They lament .... well if it saves the life of OOOOOOONE person, it's worth passing unenforceable laws that affect 5 million law abiding people.

These events always seems to ignore the fact that someone like this psychotic could have disabled the fire alarms and set the dorms on fire at night, Set pipe bombs around to go off in highly populated areas. Could have run into classes chopping people to death with machetes or serialy abducting and killing people over a long period of time by suffocation.

All of which would have still had some Democrap standing up in front of the Senate calling for more gun control.

Certainly a trigger guard would have prevented this terrible event. What harm could it do to pass a law like that? Why for sure, if someone didn't use their trigger guard and another person was harmed because of it, we could prosecute the gun owner. Of course, the dead person would still be dead, however.

But to keep it in line with the Democraps way of thinking, it would foster the creation of ANOTHER govenment agency called the In Home Trigger Guard Checking Police, to make sure the law was being obeyed. This agency would also have jurisdiction over the removal of "Do not remove" pillow tags.