Best place to buy parts for those of us who don't have a dealers license ?

I didn't realize you only meant programming by hand. In that case, I wouldn't even consider the P3200 or larger Napco panels. The easiest current panel to program by hand that I've done was the DSC Power832. The first time I programmed one was for a DIYer in CT who was having trouble understanding it. He was a fireman working in my town. I opened the programming instructions for the first time and wrote the program in less than 30 minutes.

Ademco Vista panels aren't bad for keypad programming. DIYers do them every day with little or no trouble. With Napco I always suggest they get the PCI-Mini and the free Napco software. As many Napco panels as I've done, I still won't hand program them.

I issued laptops to each installer, not just for programming new installations but also for service calls. You can often get a better picture of what's going on with an installation by downloading the panel's history. Sometimes that's the only way to discover a problem because non-DIY end users don't always remember what they did before a false alarm was triggered.

Thats absurd, are you trying to suggest that DIY end users somehow have better recollection than non-DIY end users.

Too funny

Doug L

You own a laptop? Is that what you are trying to say?

Doug L

I hope you're not expecting a straight answer.

Doug L wrote:

We are talking about keypad programming, that panel has four configurable zones 90, 91, 92 and 93

Hey I've used every one a few times

Check your email later tonight.

And the relatively new zone type 12 monitor zone...just used that one for the first time. Perfect for hi/lo temp sensor.

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| > >>The 20PS has configurable zones... OK only 2 of 'em but its a start... | > >

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| > > Umm no that panel has 4 | > >

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| > Sure, if you are using a downloader. I thought we were talking hand | > programming... | > We do alomost all our programming in the field. Especially the smaller | > panels. There are a few laptops floating around for the bigger panels | > but I never seem to have one when I am installing one... go figure... | | We are talking about keypad programming, that panel has four configurable | zones 90, 91, 92 and 93 | |

me too...a _few_ times.

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| > | > Robert L Bass wrote: | > | >

| > | > >>So Mark...you probably see more varied panels | > | > >>than anyone here...what do you think as far as | > | > >>ease of programming...low end Vistas or Nappys? | > | > >

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| > | > > I can answer that one for you. Ademco / Honeywell Vista-15P and | > | > > Vista-20P control panels are easier to program than Napco's | > | > > P1632, P3200, etc. With all of that Napco flexibility come a lot | > | > > more programming options from which to choose. Some things you | > | > > can leave untouched if you're not using them. | > | > >

| > | > > If you like the standard zone types (pre-configured sets of | > | > > options) you can use those much like you can with a Vista panel. | > | > > But if you want to change the way one or more zones function | > | > > beyond the basics, you're going to spend more time in the Napco | > | > > manual. The difference is that with Napco you have the choice. | > | > > With most other brands your options are far more limited. | > | >

| > | > The 20PS has configurable zones... OK only 2 of 'em but its a start... | > | | > | Umm no that panel has 4 | > | | > | | > | | >

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How do I get to 92 & 93?

Programming fields 182 - 185 programs parameters and reports for 90 & 91 but even the book tells me the other two are programable only via downloader.

Love that one

Yea except it sends an E150 Auxiliary alarm, if the central station is one that dispatches based on the CID event you might have problems

configurable

I learn something new every day, you are correct

configurable

I just translated the 150 to appropriate response code. It was easier than figuring out the configurable zone type/CID code on the fly in freekin freezing weather. I can always change it remotely. But the nice thing about type 12 is that it auto resets and no beeps/buzzer so the h/o doesn't have to deal with that...just the almost frozen pipes.

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| > | > Mark Leuck wrote: | > | > >>

| > | > >>The 20PS has configurable zones... OK only 2 of 'em but its a | start... | > | > >

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| > | > > Umm no that panel has 4 | > | > >

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| > | > Sure, if you are using a downloader. I thought we were talking hand | > | > programming... | > | > We do alomost all our programming in the field. Especially the | smaller | > | > panels. There are a few laptops floating around for the bigger panels | > | > but I never seem to have one when I am installing one... go figure... | > | | > | We are talking about keypad programming, that panel has four | configurable | > | zones 90, 91, 92 and 93 | > | | > | | >

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