Firewall newbie! Which free one??

Wrong, if you can detect port traffic you can do anything you want, without that information you don't have a clue.

It doesn't matter what is using the port, only that it's being used. If I don't know that my computer is using TCP 1434 to connect to a computer in china, then it doesn't matter what application is using that port. If I know that the port is in use, then I can start checking as to why.

Port tracking/monitoring does work, but Windows XP firewall can't tell you what ports are in use.... Something most PFW's can tell you.

So, again, another failure of Windows XP Firewall to provide basic firewall functions.

If they didn't call it a firewall I would have no issues with the product.

Yeah, Yeah little Garrot aka 007-Carrot Spyware Secret Agent go tell your mama what you're doing. You can through your bottle out of the crib too. Maybe, that will get someone's attention.

I guess it's mission accomplished. Where the hell is the f****ng secret list about the *developers* and more spyware, boy? I need you to go on about the list. I needles me some CD's so that I can grind me up some spyware dust and sprinkle a little bit around.

That way, I can pull you in some more and have a little fun, 007-Carrot Spyware Secret Agent.

If anyone is miss reading anything around here boy, it's you ;-), as I baited the arrow with a little sypware dust and shot the arrow into the sky and little old Garrot aka 007-Carrot Spyware Secret Agent took off with his 007 Spyware Secret Agent Big Wheel and went after it. :)

I hate to see you under pressure in a real cross examination, as you might crack under the pressure and give it all up. ;-)

EOR

Duane :)

I have heard your worthless little spill before Little Garrot aka

007-Carrot Spyware Secret Agent, since coming to this NG back in 2000. I have moved past the BS little PFW/or what I like to call them personal packet filters that are not FW(s) and some damn App Control in them, that can be circumvented and defeated. I don't lean on such snake-oil like you do.

I am even using a personal packet filter with your beloved App Control from this hotel room while on the road contracting as a *developer*. But your beloved App Control is disable in this solution as it's worthless to me and I don't need it. It only stops unsolicited inbound traffic which is not unlike the XP's personal packet solution.

However, I use an element that's on the XP pro O/S that is a packet filter too that can stop inbound or outbound traffic by port, protocol or IP to supplement the personal packet filter. It too has logging like the personal packet filter that's running on the machine.

Read boy and read it well.

I use the AnalogX rules with adjustments in the rules for my needs to supplement the personal packet filter.

The buck stops with the O/S, it don't stop anywhere else for me. I know how to go to the O/S and control what is to run and what's not to run. My personal packet filter with it's worthless snake-oil App Control is not responsible for anything other than to *block* unsolicited inbound traffic to the machine, when my machine is not behind my FW appliance, which is turned off when the machine is behind the FW appliance.

I know how to use the proper tools like TCPview, Active Ports and Process Explorer, etc, etc and look for myself as to what is happening on my machines. If something is running on my machines that I don't want running or doing something, I don't run it and I remove it from my machines or don't install it period.

In the mean time, you continue to lean on your solution like a crutch and stand up in the NG and try to preach about it.

Boy, I have been in the IT field since 1971 when Apple was in a wooden box. I am pretty sure I have done more and seen more with computers and software including being a software developer since 1980, than you have been alive.

I just wanted to see what path on the Yellow Brick road you would take as I sprinkled spyware dust in your nose. ;-)

You go boy! I know you have said to your PFW that it's great, you're great and therefore, you both are great.

EOR specialist -- that's Equal Opportunity Ragger to you boy and the deadly game of ragging. You jumped right out of your crib with a loose Pamper. ;-)

Duane :)

Stop frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog and take some valium. The fact you keep posting twice to me proves that you have lost the argument. Next!

What argument are you talking about, boy? What's wrong with you, boy?

There is no argument boy other than you standing up on your soapbox with spyware dust in your nose, Agent. And you made it very *clear* as to what you are and there is no argument there, that you're a dumb ass with the home user part left out.

You said a couple of sentences about spyware and you keep running off about your mouth about a personal packet filter. It tickles me to no end that people the Internet need a discussion or argument. You can have it with yourself boy.

And besides boy, you foamed at the mouth first about your *f****ng* list. That's really all this about*boy* for me is you foaming about the mouth with me. The rest of this is just icing on the cake for me.

All I am doing is having a little fun with the rag game. And you bit again little Garrot 007-Carrot Spyware Secret Agent. You're the one that's standing up in the NG like a lunatic making something out of nothing.

Stop acting like a little *clown* and have your mama put some Riddlin and a couple of Prozac in your formula. You can have a bottle on me and then you can lay down. ;-)

Duane :)

Here boy, I made a second post. Let's see if you'll bite. ;-)

Duane :)

Duane & Garrot...

Can't we all just get along?

...Kum Ba Ya My Lord... Kum Ba Ya....

I used to know a guy who had two dogs who were the best of friends. He would rub their noses together though and a massive fight would ensue....

C'mon now.... Let's stick to comp.security.firewalls... You two can blow kisses at one another somewhere else...

Seriously though you both had some valid points...

What do I know about computer security you ask? Just enough to be paranoid...

;)

The only kiss 007-Carrot would get would be the kiss of the grill on the front of my GMC Jimmy as I ran him down in street traffic as he played. I might go around the block and let the Jimmy kiss him again on GP to make sure. ;-)

Duane :)