I am trying to setup a wireless access point for my XBox. I have my main wireless router (DLink 2310) hardwired to my cable modem and want to have my second wireless router (Linksys WRT54GC) setup as an access point without having to hardwire it to my main router. Is this possible?
I would like to hardwire my Xbox into the 2nd router and be able to get on Xbox Live through the main router, wirelessly.
Please let me know if any clarification is needed. I hope I've explained this well enough. I've hit a brick wall with this, after a lot of searching google and xbox.com. I've heard that this may not be possible, but I'm not sure I can trust that source.
You are correct with the router name - sorry for the abbv. I have a regular Xbox - not the 360.
So, I can't set the WRT54GC up as an access point? From the box - it says that I can. ??
I'm not sure what you are inferring by "not what you previously asked". I was using two paragraphs to explain what I was trying to do. Why exactly isn't the WRT54GC useful? Just in this situation - or in any other?
One, I don't have a 360, and two - you are correct - it's the price. I don't want to pay $100 for the adapter if I can help it.
Why the animosity?
Only one wall
No interference from any of these things that you listed.
Can you explain exactly why a bridge is needed and a router/access point won't work? I've tried finding out this information and I'm having a hard time getting an answer. I am a sys admin and even the guys that I work with are hard-pressed to answer this question. Thanks for the reply!
The network topology of an Infrastructure Wireless LAN (WLAN) is a point-to-multipoint star, with a single central controller (wireless access point or wireless router), and one or more wireless clients.
Clients can connect to one and only one access point, and not to other clients.
An access point can only connect to clients, not to other access points.
Some products can be switched between different modes; e.g., either an access point or a client bridge, but not both at the same time.
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OK, the regular Xbox requires an ethernet wireless bridge or wireless client radio, not USB.
Yes, you can set it up as an access point. The catch is that there's no way to use it as a client adapter for your Xbox. Wireless client adapters talk to access points. Access points don't talk to other access points except using WDS, which neither the WBR-2310 or the WRT54GC support. You're looking for the wrong device which is why you're having trouble finding something.
Because what you need is a device that acts like a wireless client, not like an infrastructure access point router. Many wireless access points do have a "client mode", but the WRT54GC does not.
No animosity. Try not to read too much between my lines. The "why bother" was in reference to my incorrect assumption that you have an Xbox 360 and can use the official MS wireless adapter. I started to make a list of alternatives and decided it wasn't worth the effort at the time.
Also, I'm not into diplomacy, just accuracy and numbers. If you want to subsidize my decadent and lavish lifestyle, I can turn on the charm and diplomacy. For an extra charge, I'll run a spelling chequer. For my normal consulting rates, I'll even proof read my answers.
No problem as long as the wall is not concrete, foil backed insulation, foil backed wallpaper, or stuffed with chicken wire. I note that you didn't mention how many feet. The reason I asked is that there's a difference in range between cheap USB radios with tiny antennas, and ethernet wireless bridges or game adapters, with the potential for adding external antennas.
One of these should work:
ones labeled "game adapter".
There are also a number of wireless access points that have a client mode. If the above list is insufficient, I can dig out a few of these.
I've only had personal experience with a Linksys WGA54G at a friends with an older Xbox. It works well enough but is rather pricey at $80.
One gotcha that drives me nuts is that none of the aforementioned products bother to mention how many game consoles can be connected via wireless to your Dlink WBR-2310. Some are limited to exactly one game console. Others, such as the WET11 and WET54G will allow attaching an ethernet switch with as many as 30 devices through the wireless. Sorry, but I don't have any numbers on the ones I listed.
I prefer to call it an "ethernet client adapter" or "game adapter" but most vendors like to call it a "wireless ethernet bridge".
John answered most of the question. I'll try to fill in some detail and background.
The problem your facing is that the various vendors have been very creative on naming wireless devices. Worse, many of them are multifunction in that they have multiple modes and configurations. I tried to organize the terminology in the FAQ with:
It's not perfect, but it's the best I can do considering the muddle.
The thing to remember is that *ALL* wireless communications is bridging in that it works on ISO Layer 2 (the MAC layer). The only involvement with TCP/IP Layer 3 features is in the management interface and the often attached IP router section.
The other item of importance is that there two topologies. Peer to peer, also known as ad-hoc, where all the wireless clients talk to each other directly. There is no access point in ad-hoc. MS limits the number of participants to 9 clients.
The other is the more common infrastructure mode. There are access points and there are client radios. For two clients to talk to each other, they must go through the access point. This is the most common type of wireless network.
Access points normally do not talk to other access points. However, there is a protocol called WDS which allows supported access points to talk to each other and act as a transparent bridge while simultaneously acting as a wireless access point. If both your wireless devices supported WDS, you could have plugged the Xbox into one, and used it to talk to the other.
The term "wireless router" simply means a wireless access point with a built in ethernet switch, where one of the ethernet ports goes to an internal IP router. It's exactly the same as if you had just a wireless access point, and attached an external IP router.
There's more, that will do for now. Any questions?
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I just found a forum that posts how to make the WRT54G operate in client mode. The firmware update doesn't say that it's for the "GC", so I'm not sure if it would work or not. I'm also not sure I want to pay $20 to find out.
3rd-party firmware can indeed be used in wireless client (Ethernet) bridge mode, but it's not for the faint of heart (unskilled), and only works with certain routers (as you've discovered), _not_ including the WRT54GC .
Here's a combo access point/bridge for $40 plus shipping:
It's highly likely. I've got about $150 in assorted rebates that Tiger Direct has managed to ignore, lose, or forget. I won't buy anything that requires a rebate from them again. I've complained, was informed that they would "take care of it" and nothing has happened.
Also, I'm getting tired of miserable packing. The contents are usually fairly well wrapped and protected, but the outside of the box has never been taped shut properly. When delivered by UPS, the shipping box is usually partially open. Fortunately nothing has been missing, so far.
However, Tiger Direct does have a cool looking catalog.