I need dual bank recommendation

Beat me!

That is what I did

Dual band routers, with gigabit ports, can be had for $60

It hardly qualifies as breaking the bank..

I'm currently using this one at home:

Mikrotik classifies it as a switch, but it has full routing functions and you can group the ports into whatever combo you want. You could have dual WAN inputs, or triple WAN inputs, etc.. You can combine 3 ports into a group for one lan and combine a couple more into another group for another lan (lan segmenting), etc..

I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input fails the second will automatically take over. Redundancy is awesome!

Blah. Edgerouters suck.. Ubiquiti trying, and failing, to produce something approaching the functionality of Cloud Core Router

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No.. In the US we write it as 6/10/19.. Month, Day, Year...

I much prefer the European method of Day, Month, Year as it makes computer lists sort in a much saner way, but......

We write it the way we say it: October sixth, two thousand and nineteen

Ahhhh. I would love to have this feature!

many routers can do that, or be set up to load balance. some can use the usb port and a cellular data stick rather than another wan port.

nonsense.

Huh? If the goal is easy sorting of lines of text containing dates, a format such as YYYY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS is what sorts trivially into time sequence order. With Day, Month, Year, wouldn't July 6th (6/7) end up between June 6th and 7th (6/6 and 7/6)? -WBE

Day, Month, Year looks better than the mixed-up middle-endian Month, Day, Year although sorting still wouldn't be right. It would put July 4 before June 5. I prefer Year-Month-Day which does sort right, as well as being consistent with the way multi-digit numerals are written.

I write dates that way when I don't have to comply with someone else's methods. Today is 2019-06-11 (note that it still works with the delimiters omitted: 20190611),

BTW, 2 weeks until Leon Day.

Also, there's another date system that uses Year-Week-Weekday, where today is 2019-W24-2 (2 means it's a Tuesday) and every week (and every year) starts on Monday. That might be better (for one thing, no irregular months) once we get used to it.

OT: There's a surprise at

In order of significance. I have a directory of netcasts for about 4 years, using a similar method and it sorts properly. The filenames start like this:

2018-12-18 ... 2018-12-25 ... 2019-01-01 ... 2019-01-08 ...

(I used a delimiter of - instead of / because of it being generally acceptable in file names).

And dates in different years would be mixed in with each other. For my example, it would have the 2 from 2019 before the 2 from 2018.

I do the cellular data stick thing with Watchguard firewalls. It is flaky.

For instance, when the Internet goes down, it does not failover. You have to "unplug" the firewall for 10 minutes (power cycling does not work), then power back up and it will fail over properly.

It is a pain in the ass.

On 6/11/19 5:39 AM, nospam wrote:> In article <qdnkvk$4r4$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid wrote: >

Many can, but the majority of $150 (or less) routers cannot. Few home users have a redundant connection, which is why this feature is _usually_ only found in business / industry class hardware.

Using a cellular data stick as your redundant connection isn't a great idea if you have data caps like 90% of subscribers. Unless your router has some way of notifying you that it has switched to the secondary connection, it's not going to take long to blow through your gigabytes if you do any type of video streaming.

On Mikrotik hardware that functionality is trivial to implement via a script (I'm a big fan of their hardware) and they also have routers specifically designed to support cellular data sticks.

Hardly. I've been using Ubiquiti gear since Day 1. I've probably deployed $100,000 worth of their hardware, but they haven't come up with a router or switch that's worth a crap. Not when you compare them to the competition. Sure, their stuff is better today than it was 5 years ago, They're improving, but no.. You take hardware like Netonix's WISP switch and there is hardly a comparison. Short of a firmware update, those boxes will run for years, literally, without human intervention. I can't remember the last time I saw a piece of Ubiquiti hardware that had an uptime of greater than 100 days or so. They'll stay up longer if they serve very light loads, but you start pumping a few TB a day through them and they go down faster than a broke hooker.

Ubiquiti has spread itself too thin and lost sight of its core business. They want to be everything to everybody and are no longer specializing. They want to supply carrier class gear, they want to supply SOHO gear, and they want to supply everything in between. Cisco made that mistake too.. And they went bankrupt..

Specialization breeds competence. There's a reason why Brain Surgeons are specialists.. There's a reason why a plumber usually doesn't moonlight as a framer..

Ubiquiti revolutionized the wireless hardware side of the equation by making it truly affordable and easy. They need to stick to that and leave the routing and switching functions to specialists. I bitched the day they started implementing firewall and routing functions into their shit. Their firmware hasn't been equally as stable since. I remember when you could get 2 years out of a Powerstation 5D before you had to reboot it..

Well, enough ranting I guess :)

Oh yeah.. you got me, I was thinking of that and writing totally different.. I was thinking of month then day.. But you're absolutely correct that having the year in the front is what makes the lists sorts easily.

On 6/11/19 10:37 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote: <snip>

You're absolutely correct. I totally misspoke earlier. I do use the YYYY/MM/DD format myself. A snippit from my photo directory

2018-10-31_17-09-21.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-25.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-30.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-36.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-42.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-46.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-51.jpg 2018-10-31_17-09-58.jpg 2018-10-31_17-10-03.jpg 2018-10-31_17-10-19.jpg

YYY-MM-DD_HH-MI-SS

That does explain what I see with Ubiquite. Some excellent stuff and some junk. And UI's from hell.