Re: Cell Phone Calls to 911

On Apr 25, 3:07 pm, snipped-for-privacy@arl.army.mil (Carl Moore (ARL/SLAD/BND/GSB) wrote:

News item today on KYW news-radio is about effort to get Bucks County > (Pennsylvania) 911 system enhanced to pinpoint calls from cell phones.

Would you have a specific URL or date for this story? I tried searching for this story but couldn't find anything.

Who would pay for the system? The regular taxpayer or another tax on telephone services?

I found this but it isn't about Bucks County, PA:

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With plain 911, that doesn't give an address or town, they had a similar problem. The telephone central offices do not at all correspond with either municipal boundaries, commonly used names, or postal zones. Further, some public safety services are merged and handle more than one muncipality.

Some new people to the suburbs let their houses burn down because they did not know what township they lived in since the township name might not be in common usage. They presumed they lived in what everyone called their town in everyday conversation.

For example, near me is the "Jones Township". It is served by three different telephone COs, none of which are named Jones, two different post offices (not named Jones), one regional school district (not named Jones). The library is county. Indeed, unless a resident wants to join the township swimming pool, they would normally have no contact with the township at all.

However, in my opinion such expensive computerization is no substitute for having well trained dispatchers knowing the geography, indeed, that is critical in a public safety function. Some roads do run for very long distances, but most do not, and the dispatcher looking at a map (computerized index) should have an immediate feel for the target area.

Of course, sensible naming of streets wouldn't hurt either. In the above, there are several "Jones Roads" that connect to other towns and could be confusing. Road names should not be duplicated if they are close to each other, and intersections should have clear street signs for both streets, something often not done to save money or maintain privacy.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One way I could tell this in the past > was that Chicago's street signs are different than the suburbs, and > its overhead street lights are different.

This is true, but most people don't notice things like street signs or street lights. Indeed, while street signs might be uniform within a particular municipality, street lights vary greatly. In my town we have old incandescent, white mercury vapor, and yellow sodium, on a variety of poles and fixtures. (Our street signs are white on black, next town is white on green, next town is blue on white).

In Philadelphia, most street lights are mounted on wood telephone poles*. Free standing ones since the 1950s were a swan type shape, but more recent installations are a variety of designs.

(*Wood telephone poles seemed to have kept the same design since the

1920s.)

The zig zag municipal boundaries possible came out of the original split off of city/town vs. rural. Some farmers may have wanted in, others wanted out, and the boundaries were drawn to accomodate them. These decisions could've been made 200+ years ago. I think way back then only landowners could hold political office (thus the term "freeholder").

I do not know how cell phones and calls to the police are handled in > those places.

A friend of mine had an auto accident on a tiny bridge over a creek that was a municipal boundary. The two police departments arrived and spent an hour arguing about which one was responsible to write up the accident.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The reason why the northwest side of Chicago is so ragged is due to the way it was first parceled out, mainly after World War 2. A lot of it back then was 'unicorporated' meaning part of no city or town at all ... There are two very small villages on the northwest side of Chicago which are _completely surrounded_ on all four sides by City of Chicago (Norridge and Harwood Heights) They sit there and do their own thing, despite pressure from City of Chicago now and then to try and 'standardize' their procedures and policies (in other words, join the City of Chicago). They are both part of 'Norwood Park Township, and after Norridge ends, and a small finger of Chicago protrudes, then follows an area called 'Unicorporated Norwood Park Township' which abuts the town of Des Plaines, Illinois on one side and City of Chicago on the other side.

Literally, a block here, a half block there makes the difference if it is in the City of Chicago, the City of Des Plaines, the village of Norridge, or Unincorporated Township. To make matters worse, all the house numbers along there are numbered 'Chicago-style', meaning about

82-84 blocks (west of Chicago's State Street dividing line, '8200 West'); including the houses in Norridge, the 'independent village'. That is why John Wayne Gacy (serial killer in the 1970's) went so long unabated. His neighbors frequently called _Chicago Police_ (their default 911 connection) to report their suspicions, but '8215 West Summerdale Avenue' was an unincorporated area. Mr. Gacy, the local high-politician, was finally arrested by police from the town of Des Plaines, IL in the midst of another investigation (which turned out to be part of the (heretofore uninvestigated) disappearance of more than thirty young men who were buried in his basement. Mr. Gacy was finally, mercifully, put to sleep in a humane way (I think they gassed him when his appeals ran out) about twenty years later in the middle 1990's. Some authority (municipal?) finally tore down the house where he had been living after Gacy's place had become a hangout for vandals, teenage freaks, Satan worshippers, and other malevolent types. A new house was built there later on, thoughtfully numbered '8217' or something other than Gacy's former street number (8215) which bore much baggage with it. It is all still Unincorporated Norwood Park Township however. And would you believe police came out and dug up the yard at the new house also a few years later? It appears in his death row cell someone planted a bug in police's ear that they had 'missed a few bodies' in their earlier digging, so police were inspired to go out and dig for those bodies also. PAT]
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