Flat Rate Water, was: Verizon Complaints About EVDO

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The moral issue is: whether an "unlimited" service sold to an

> individual can be shared with others. Past history suggests "no." We > don't share our unlimited local phone lines with the neighborhood, nor > our cable TV. We don't rent one trash pickup in the nbhd and tell > everyone to bring their trash on over to one house for pickup. We > don't jam everyone possible into a car at the drive-in theatre in an > effort to avoid paying for extra cars. In places with unmetered water > (like NYC), we don't extend hoses to our neighbors so they don't have > to pay for a basic water hookup.

Minor correction and update:

NYC _used_ to have a kind-of flat rate service [a] for residential water users. You paid a fee based on your frontage (size of your property) _and_ the number of faucets per the plans on file with the building department.

[a] kind of like the kind-of flat rates for phone service, I guess...

Beginning about two decades ago all new residential hookups were metered, and bit by bit all the older ones have been switched over as well.

As a bit of a side trivia, NYC customers actually pay roughly _twice_ the metered rate since there's a corresponding sewer fee. There's a small group of homeowners who have their own septic tanks and are exempt from that -- if they know to apply ...

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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do you mean to tell me septic tanks are allowed in New York City? Here in Independence, KS, _everyone_ has to be hooked to the sewer, with no exceptions. Outside the city limits (that area which is known as 'rural Independence') is a different matter. Most of them are _not_ hooked to the sewer, but they are hooked to the water, and many of them complain about the cost of 'rural water' which is much more expensive than 'city water'. I cannot believe there are places and communities so backward that septic tanks are allowed, except by default in small rural areas. But NYC? Not even in Chicago do you see that any longer.

The water meter-reader comes around once per month to read ours (they have to lift a cover off of the hole in the ground where the water meter is located; usually it is typically in the front yard (most are actually in the parkway; the grassy area between the sidewalk and the street). Based on that reading, the bills are sent out by the Water Department. But the trick comes in the factors they use to calculate the bill. Our bills are about three times the water amount. The water consumption is only a small part of the bill; most of the bill comes from the sewer, and the sanitation workers. Garbage collectors come around twice each week (Monday and Thursday in my case; other neighborhoods are Tuesday/Friday or Wednesday/Saturday). They empty the garbage cans and are supposed to sweep the alleys and sidewalks. My monthly bill for water/sewer/sanitation is about $35 per month. And once or twice a year I get a mailing telling me how the Filtration Plant calculates what the water charges will be, and the chemicals used to clean the water, etc, and how much the charge will be for 'rural' (out of city limits) users.

They say because I am a senior citizen and a 'hardship case' I get the water at a cheaper rate; but the sewer and sanitation parts of the bill are constant. If I were not a senior and/or hardship case my bill would be about $38 or $39 per month. But septic tanks ... my God! My grandparents, when they lived in Coffeyville in the

1950's had one of those, but only because the area they were in had been 'rural' until it was annexed by Coffeyville sometime in the 1940's. I remember once grandpa Townson's septic tank got plugged up somehow; they had to dig up the yard and clean it out. A septic tank? ... ugh ... PAT]
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