Yea! Another one read the contract!

i may send her a "how does it feel to be free?" card, and maybe invite her for a drink to celebrate!!! i'm sure she's just COUNTING the days until bASS falls over dead....oh what a great day THAT will be!!!

. There isn't a single

Heh, heh, heh... :^)

? whom did mr. bass kill, and did he have it coming?

You assume you'll still be here when I'm gone. Your predecessor made the same assumption.

She doesn't drink but I'll let her know you're interested. Somehow I doubt you'd get to first base though. She's a bit more discriminating than that.

Maybe so. Maybe not. We just got back from a wonderful vacation together in Brazil. We have a lot of fun together. I wish her English was better so she could have a good laugh reading your daily drivel.

Depends if you live to see it. You never know. Meanwhile, I'm having a great time doing whatever I like. In a few days I'll be in the Amazon jungle, fishing for trophy (well, maybe not quite) peacocks. You ought to try it someday if you can afford it. :^)

thank you. its difficult to tell the intentions of some. by labelling mr. bass as a "murderer" (and given that he isnt in prison) i thought perhaps he was involved in a defensive shooting or something and the poster in question was anti-gun or something.

mr. bass, are you suggesting that all brinks salespeople/authorized dealers/installers/etc. are dishonest?

From what I can gather from reading here, Mr. Bass didn't actually murder anyone in the legal sense of the word. However he was culpable in a auto accident that lead to someone's death. I don't believe that person "had it coming" any more that any of us do.

"mr. bass" fell asleep at the wheel. Someone that gets behind the wheel of an automobile when he *knows* he's tired is criminally negligent. "mr. bass" also threatened another person with a gun (was convicted of that crime and sentenced to five years probation). The latter crime was committed in Florida the very same year he set up a security company in Connecticut. He did this without the proper licensing too. "mr. bass" has flouted social mores, local laws and ordinances for most of his life. He recently had to stop selling monitoring contracts because he lacked the proper licensing in Florida.

thank you for the information. im still trying to "learn" everyone in here before i formally introduce myself to the group.

A colleague of mine recently posted into the group as well. He was "briefed" on "mr. bass" well before hand too. "mr. bass" accused him of being "me". His first name is "Frank" too. Google "firetek" in this newsgroup. I don't figure it's going to be long before he accuses you of being a liar and a fraud. He will see your response to the "flame" he directed at "BDEBJ" as confirmation that you work for Brinks as well. While I don't hold with Brinks views (or their Lawyers) on Jim Rojas and

"Nathan W. Collier" > ? whom did mr. bass kill, and did he have it coming?

We all have it coming, kid.

I was in a fatal accident 37 years ago. No charges were ever filed. These idiots try to make it sound as though I murdered someone.

No. I was being facetious.

RHC: Welcome to the group Nathan. It's refreshing to see someone come into the group using their proper name (or what appears to be your real name anyway...:))

I suggest you might want to stick around awhile and read the responses from all individuals before you pass judgment on anyone. Like in most any internet newsgroup, all is not what it appears to be and all those here are not always what they appear to be, nor what they are refuted to be. You'll have to form your own conclusions on that....

I joined the newsgroup about 10 years ago with one purpose; to learn about the experiences of others in the security field, and to pass on what little I've learned in the passing years to others. All the rest is meaningless (at least to me). But the group as a whole has been of great assistance to me, and I have met several people on the group I would now consider friends. Don't be dismayed by all the bickering and hate mongering; sort through it,and you'll find the group as a whole are a good bunch of people....more or less representative of what you'll find in real life.

I hope you get as much out of the newsgroup as I have over the years. Welcome aboard....

R.H.Campbell Home Security Metal Products Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

"Three things in life are certain; death, taxes and bad gun laws"

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Nathan,

To understand what goes on in this newsgroup you need first to understand a little about Olson and a couple of others here. Olson lies constantly. He has gone real world against me and my online business repeatedly so I decided to find out if there was anything more than bluster behind his statements here.

He has made a fictitious persona of himself, claiming all kinds of experience which he does not have. He also tells ludicrous tall stories. For example, he once claimed that he had snap-rolled (an extreme aerobatic maneuver which is prohibited, not to mention physically impossible in a large airliner) a Boeing 737 airliner which, according to Olson was lent to him by Boeing Aircraft so he could test his per theory about a famous Canadian air crash. I checked. He never held a pilot's license in the US or Canada.

Olson also claims he installs all kinds of advanced security, access control and fire alarm systems in and around Burnaby, BC. I checked that, too. None of the local supply shops ever heard of him. No inspectors in any of the towns near there had ever heard of him. There's no record of a license in his name.

Olson built a website which pretends to "represent" this newsgroup. On it he placed the logos of various manufacturers and industry associations. Above those logos he "thanks" all of those organizations for their assistance in creating the website. I checked that out, too. No one in marketing, public relations, etc., from any of the companies knew anything about Olson's website.

The site includes a page which quotes a *proposed* FAQ for this newsgroup. The FAQ was the idea of the gentleman who originally posted the requests to create the newsgroup (a minor task which required less than an hour's time). Olson never met the gentleman (I have) and had nothing to do with creating, maintaining or otherwise supporting the newsgroup or the proposed FAQ. FWIW< the FAQ never became official since no one could agree on its terms and none of the people who post here, including me and *especially* including Olson has ever given it more than lip service.

There's a long-term war in this newsgroup which began when I came along about eight or nine years ago and began posting answers to DIYers' questions along with links to my website. Several other long-term participants (the word, "members" is not appropriate since there is no membership per se) here tried to stop me from posting. When they realized they could not get the ISP's that actually own the news servers to cooperate they tried flame wars (posting the kind of personal attacks Olson just did), bogus complaints to the local BBB, the states of FL and CT and calls to my distributors and manufacturers. Olson called ADI, DSC and several others trying to interfere with my business. He also filed a bogus complaint with the state electrical contractor licensing board. All of those efforts failed since there was never a shred of evidence to support their claims.

Now Olson, Jiminex (a nickname I gave to one exceptionally vulgar participant whose verbal filth I assume you've already noticed) and several others simply post flames in response to anything I say. Several of them, when they learned I'm fighting cancer, actually rejoiced publicly. These are not normal people. You can believe what they say or not. It will not change anything. However, if you dare to speak up for any semblance of human decency you'll get slammed mercilessly, called every name in the book as has been done to anyone and everyone who refused to join their effort.

They're basically sick, cowardly people who hide behind the perceived anonymity of Usenet much as cowards driving big SUV's behave boorishly on the road. They would never dare to act this way in person. That's why they find Usenet so rewarding. It gives them a place to act tough without fear of being popped in the nose. As such, Usenet affords an attractive, safe haven for people like Olson. They tend to hang around for years because here they can pretend they're part of the "in crowd" (in this case, alarm installers).

For my part, I'm not in the least ambiguous about my motives for being here. I answer DIYer and newbie techs' questions because it makes people interested in my online alarm system store. That very fact infuriates these guys and since I have no intention of stopping and neither do they, the war rages on. C'est la vie, no? :^)

Whether we have it coming or not, it's still coming. One positive thing I got from having cancer is an awareness of my own mortality. That spurred me to start doing many of the things I'd always wanted to do... now! So, Thursday I'm on my way to the Amazon rain forest for some serious fishing.

He was convicted of a felony by threatening a relative with a gun in 1979, is that close enough?

Nathan, he does this a lot

Wow. "Verizon" really is a heavenly connection. :-)