"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news: snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com...
about 3 years ago,when our company started looking for a new partnership ,like the one we are talking about here, paradox were in the list of constructor,we were with DSC,but we are not anymore..
but paradox did try to push there way into the company...
Matt next time I go to see our division in Surrey I will show you what is a bastard!!
No just joking...you know,you should stop listening to hockey night in canada,and leave the bad comment of Cherry about the French,where they belong..in the trash can...
By the way did you ever heard about Valley Alarm?they were in surrey...
Sure thing. Take a look at Napco Security. They make reliable products. Their tech support is pretty good (waiting time used to be long but it has dropped lately). Napco systems I installed more than
25 years ago are still working.Forget DSC. I only carry their stuff for replacement parts these days. I wouldn't recommend them for a new installation though.
Regards, Robert L Bass
Not anymore, ADT lost interest in it... They call the panel "Freedom", it's marketed towards people that don't like remembering codes......... Regards, Russ
Heheheh!
I've seen their stickers around... can't say I've ever dealt with any of them.
next thing we will see is that he will say that is untrue,that's not on his web site and you are a liar..
"Frank Ols>
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
From BBA:
"DSC's comprehensive line of Intrusion Detection products represents a degree of excellence unparalleled in the security industry. Installers everywhere rely on DSC control panels, motion detectors, glassbreak detectors, central station receivers and wireless sensors and receivers when building the perfect security system. DSC's leadership role in Intrusion Detection is based on quality products that deliver superior performance and flexibility."
From your new "home-automation" site, once get past the "Ademco" label on the control panel in the picture you get to read this:
"Real peace of mind begins with knowing your new security system was built by DSC to the highest quality standards in the security industry..."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
They're now "Protectron". I think they still maintain an office on 80th Avenue. I drive past it every once in a while.
It's actually called Safewatch EZ and it's still available:
I was told ADT was dropping the SafeWatch EZ, that's why Napco is now offering it to all dealers......... Russ
On the surface that panel seemed like a good idea but the truth of the matter is that a lot of people have trouble locking the deadbolts on their doors for a variety of reasons. In this case if the door swells up a tad and you can't get the bolt all the way into the hole your alarm does not arm. Most subs won't even have a clue that their alarm is not working.
Once upon a time all the alarm systems had keys and nobody had any codes to forget.
There also weren't any entry/exit delays to cause false alarms or allow burglars to steal everything by entering the front door and leave before the entry delay expires.
Those were the good ole days.
Yep, the good ole days when alarm systems weren't monitored and an alarm system bell could ring for a whole week while your customer was away on vacation. Boy, that's when they REALLY could build a good quality, long lasting bell. When batteries went bad and ate the bottom out of the panel. When end of line batteries were needed but nobody ever remembered to document where they were located. When you had to use the nuts off the teminals of the Bright Star #6 batteries as spacers for the Ademco # 39 mag contacts. When if you dropped a mag switch on the floor you had to throw it away.
When you only had to set a door strike to set your alarm at night but then had to listen to your bell ring off in the moring when you opened up, all the while you were trying to fit the stupid round #303 key in the # 3039 lock. When you had all twenty seven openings on one zone. And twenty of the openings were industrial tilt opening factory windows with either foil or bass wood screens. There were oxidized bullet contacts and F springs, relays to clean, and photo electric beams that used automobile headlight bulbs, but drew so much current they couldn't be run from a dry cell during a power failure and there was no such thing as a rechargeable standby battery anyway. There were shunt locks that required a 100 watt soldering iron to heat the terminals which STILL wouldn't do anything to help you get all the strands of wire into the damn hole anyway, To say nothing of melting the insulation on the wire an inch up, only cured by wrapping black tape around it. And THEN you rememberd that you didn't put the D ring, back spacers and the tube on the wire first and had to unsolder it and start over again.
And then of course we took a giant leap in technology and advaced to when there were runaway tape dialers that would ring up a $150.00 phone bill for your customer, over a long weekend, while the police department had a wanted poster made up with your picture on it.
Yep Thems sure was the "good ole days"
My point still stands tho, every manufacturer will go through hoops to get large companies like ADT including Napco
Yah really loved climbing an 18 foot ladder to change dry cells in the bell boxes too.
"Jim" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... | | snipped-for-privacy@sbcglobal.net wrote: | > On the surface that panel seemed like a good idea but the truth of the | > matter is that a lot of people have trouble locking the deadbolts on their | > doors for a variety of reasons. In this case if the door swells up a tad | > and you can't get the bolt all the way into the hole your alarm does not | > arm. Most subs won't even have a clue that their alarm is not working. | >
| > Once upon a time all the alarm systems had keys and nobody had any codes to | > forget. | >
| > There also weren't any entry/exit delays to cause false alarms or allow | > burglars to steal everything by entering the front door and leave before the | > entry delay expires. | >
| > Those were the good ole days. | >
| | Yep, the good ole days when alarm systems weren't monitored and an | alarm system bell could ring for a whole week while your customer was | away on vacation. Boy, that's when they REALLY could build a good | quality, long lasting bell. | When batteries went bad and ate the bottom out of the panel. | When end of line batteries were needed but nobody ever remembered to | document where they were located. | When you had to use the nuts off the teminals of the Bright Star #6 | batteries as spacers for the Ademco # 39 mag contacts. | When if you dropped a mag switch on the floor you had to throw it away. | | When you only had to set a door strike to set your alarm at night but | then had to listen to your bell ring off in the moring when you opened | up, all the while you were trying to fit the stupid round #303 key in | the # 3039 lock. | When you had all twenty seven openings on one zone. | And twenty of the openings were industrial tilt opening factory windows | with either foil or bass wood screens. | There were oxidized bullet contacts and F springs, relays to clean, and | photo electric beams that used automobile headlight bulbs, but drew so | much current they couldn't be run from a dry cell during a power | failure and there was no such thing as a rechargeable standby battery | anyway. | There were shunt locks that required a 100 watt soldering iron to heat | the terminals which STILL wouldn't do anything to help you get all the | strands of wire into the damn hole anyway, To say nothing of melting | the insulation on the wire an inch up, only cured by wrapping black | tape around it. And THEN you rememberd that you didn't put the D ring, | back spacers and the tube on the wire first and had to unsolder it and | start over again. | | And then of course we took a giant leap in technology and advaced to | when there were runaway tape dialers that would ring up a $150.00 phone | bill for your customer, over a long weekend, while the police | department had a wanted poster made up with your picture on it. | | Yep Thems sure was the "good ole days" |
A couple points on this one then you can all pile on me
If you are serious about this then ask yourself a question,
Have I contacted my inside sales rep. at Honeywell and introduced myself and do I know her by name so that if she gets a call from an end user in my territory looking for service or install, I will be among folks that she list? Have I made sure that she has my correct phone and contact info?
well gotta go now so flame on!
"Smitty's" original post is off of my server, but I'm sure he wasn't the one that posted the Dealer login and password. That was Bass.
I don't know what part of the solar system you've been in lately, but the wholesalers I deal with give me their best pricing regardless. If I found out otherwise... well... let's just say "the chop" is the least of their worries...
As an alarm DEALER, I would never publish or provide the user name and password to a manufacturer's (or whole-salers) secure dealer-only site. You have only to read their terms and conditions to see why. If the customer that contracted "large jobs" with me "on a repeat basis", wanted access, I would be asking "why?" What can he get from a Dealer only site that he couldn't get from me directly?? I can't think of a single thing (although I'm sure RLB can - and will - post)...
I was working for Chubb. I seem to remember it was "Chubb/Mosler" at one time... and no... it didn't "hurt us"... ;-)
I was installing and servicing Racal, Ademco, and DSC products. Couldn't care less about "Aritech"...
Heard of 'em... Can't say their "folding" had any direct effect on me (or my business)...
Gawd!!! I hope he *won't*... We're booked solid into the New Year as it is!!!
"He" sure does...
Grrrrrrr!!!! I'm sure your Mom is askin': "Where did I go wrong?" :-)
Had nothing to do with my point, Average user is not going to go to mfg. as they don't install, let alone 4 sub directories in
I am in that part of the solar system that tells the truth, and after installing for my folks company, then running my own business worked for manufacturer for the past 18 years,
If it makes you feel good to think you get the same price and Brinks, ADT, Rollins, Priority One etc you keep telling yourself so, (your rep is smiling all the way to the bank)
Again had nothing to to with my point, RLB and I had our own issues about past panels and current opinions, my point is that Honeywell did nothing to harm small dealers by posting National Companies on the dealer page. RLB had no relevance to that point...
Either way its dead and it left owing beacoup of folks money
Then clearly question was not aimed at you but if you think you get the same price or better that another division of TYCO gives its own company then you are visiting the next solar system.
If all you can say is heard of em then you were never in the bus at the time of the dist. wars of the late '80s give me a break
Amazes me that so many dealers post that they got so much work yet they post way into the nite and thru the day, guess the elves are their installers, Further with all this work they complain about some guy selling direct to end users. seem illogical to me.
Had lunch with her today, she said no matter what Frank says she still loves me,,,;^)
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