NFPA trying to revive 730-731 as code

it again when are they going to get it that no one wants this and AHJ want nothing to do with it.

Such a thing already exists, a UL security approved (and inspected) installation.

We are already supposed to follow the NFPA guidelines for cabling in any installation. What's next, an inspection for every security installation - including resi?

it again when are they going to get it that no one wants this and AHJ want nothing to do with it.

Thats what there ultimately aiming for

What their aiming for NickMark is way for governments to collect your money.. anything else is for show....

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Thats what there ultimately aiming for

it again when are they going to get it that no one wants this and AHJ want nothing to do with it.

Well first of all, they need to get feedback from security system CUSTOMERS on this idea!

Some of them would have a royal shit fit at providing any sort of wiring diagrams of their security systems for "approval" to any sort of inspector! Or having people without security clearances or some sort of security background check come in and "inspect" their security systems.

There is the security concept of "need to know". That is the FEWER people who know about certain security arrangements, the better.

Some customers don't want any wiring diagrams to exist of their systems or certain portions of their systems. And may only approve one security company employee to install and know about certain things. And they don't want that employee even to inform his management about these things. Billing just states time and materials - no details of work done.

So nothing in writing or diagrams about the work exists at the private security system company - that is the way "certain" customers want it.

Also you have just the customer's security chief and the one security company employee who know about this stuff. Very GOOD security! This adds a level of security.

Then also there are "custom alarm systems". The control units are one of a kind. You can't buy one anywhere. So that also limits the number of people who would know how it works. A higher level of security.

And the wiring used for certain areas or to certain devices may be other than traditional "alarm wiring". Wiring which is commonly used for anything else will do the trick. Or alarm wiring run in conduit can have the conduit intentionally mislabeled - say HVAC or whatever. I can see a local electrical inspector coming in and saying "You can't do that!"

Certain customers want/need that level of security and do not want the whole world to know about it!