another newbie, what to do with this Brinks alarm system?

Who ever ran a class A for a resi burg loop?

I've never run them except for commercial fire suppression.

You'd have to remove them because if they exist at the end of the line (where they belong) they will undoubtedly be the incorrect value for whatever panel you decide to buy.

no it won't - it would be the same as the switch being closed and in a normal state on a circuit with more than one switch in series.

pnl-----/ -----/ -----/ -resistor| pnl-------------------------------|

how you gonna lose the resistor by shorting across the switch?

different story if you're talking about open circuit switches in parallel...but who does that anymore?

heh..I don't disagree. I had a guy abt a year ago, pissing and moaning he had ("HAD" mind you) to spend 70K on landscaping and has an absolute hissy freekin fit when I told him it would cost him 1500. to trim out the alarm we had prewired for. He went with some mojo satlink skylink something or other wireless (in spite of the fact we did a beautiful prewire) - makes me cry. Except for the fact that his landscaping is butt f*ck UGLY. My partner and I laugh everytime we drive by his house.

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Yah that's what they said when the baby bells were gonna do alarms...that lasted what? a year or two. Same thing when utility companies tried their hand in security...oh damn we have to service these things too?...that lasted a year or two as well.

It'll be interesting to be sure...Microsoft Security maybe...yah that's it.

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Well that should be easy for you to handle since you have nobody to be friendly with.

Lookie here Bitch...

You come meet me somewhere. Do it now.

With the level of current technology, your completely right. However, technology does and will change. On the commercial side, interoperability and logical/ physical security convergence will have many traditional alarm installers flipping burgers within a few years. Intelligent video is part of that change. I'm working on three projects right now that use this technology to provide intrusion detection in addition to assessment. One of the vendors just got picked up by Siemens, so, yeah, there's something to this technology. The cheapie residential market may never go this direction, but convergence is happening there too. People will come to expect their security system to be integrated with HA, HVAC, IHE, etc. Again, those who don't keep up will be left behind. Something as simple as IP phones has the entire industry scrambling for a solution.

True for now. The next generation will have analytics built into IP cameras. The intelligence is being pushed out to the edge of the network. This will change the game.

Oh sure leave me out...jeez

Leucks rule of life #3: Don't call someone you you don't really know while drunk and spill your life's story

Turnaround's a jiminex, isn't it?

Actually, I was about to tell Fowler that I was wrong about him.

In this newsgroup that's a compliment.

And you've no experience at all in posting unfounded, unwarranted attacks?

Your idea of being a friend is more like a parasite.

Yes.

You said: Think about knocking out a brick under a window and putting hemostats on the wire, BEFORE it reaches the contact and you'll see why EOLR's are useful.

I said: Yes, but only if each window is zoned separately.

If 5 windows are on a zone, each window home-run to the panel, and the eol is at window 5, you could short any other contact using your example, and disable that window. The eol supervision, for the purposes of detecting a short as in your example, only holds for window 5. Hence, my assertion that eol supervision is only in effect if all windows are separately zoned, given the scope of your example. js

Anyone that installed an Ademco 1005 or 342R. Probably a little before your time, but they're still out there.

Sounds like he did you a favor. js

"J. @netscape.net>"

Funny, thats not what the ADT commercial advertises. All those ones and zeros forming a protective barrier, even their slogan "always there". And btw, it's largely the fault of ADT and other lick and stick give aways that the market has been swamped with poorly installed, false alarm generating systems.

Again, thanks in large part to ADT and others who put RMR above all else.

No they don't. They fall in between priority one calls and cold crimes where no suspect info is known.

Ah, the ADT commercial.

Where do you get the stones? Your company has totally f***ed up this industry, and it's perception by public and police. Now you have the chutzpah to say:

"The good news is that there is pressure on the industry to fix this. There are emerging technologies such as video analytics that could replace traditional security systems with much more reliable technology. The false alarm penalties and third party alarm response laws will force the trunkslammers and zero down marketers to rethink their strategies."

So, you're done pissing on the industry, and like a dog you kick dirt on it and move on down the block, never looking back. Great.

I have to agree with that, there is a lot of room for improvement. js

Oooh. Kin I watch?? js

Ha!

What's 1&2?

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