Adding a an on/off switch to appliance that doesnt have one

I've got a few devices that dont have an on/off switch (the George Foreman Grill, electric heater, etc)

Anyone know of a commercial a/c plug that has an on/off switch? Kind of like a power strip but compact with only 1 plug?

I see Smarthome carries a a big wireless version, but I'm looking something very small..

Something more like this:

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but small like this and with a switch on it)

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I can't seem to find something like this.. if it doesnt exist maybe I'll go on American Inventor!!

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Nice catch, Sylvan. Sometimes, when I want to add a switch to a fairly low current device like a battery charger, I use a rocker or thumbwheel type line cord switch, like one of these:

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Whatever the OP chooses, he should insure that the switch is rated for the load. The switch I chose (simply to illustrate what the switches look like!) can carry only 3A, so it's completely unsuitable for a George Foreman grill or a space heater. The OP should be aware that the 13A Leviton might not support a space heater running full out. Line cord switches come in an astonishing variety of designs and current carrying capabilities, so they have to be matched to the job at hand. I imagine that someone might even make a switch similar to the Leviton that carries 15A.

For the ultimate "clean" solution, the OP might want to duplex the outlet boxes and use toggle switches just above the controlled outlets. A heck of a lot more work than the switched plug option but just a tad more streamlined.

-- Bobby G.

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That's pretty damn silly. The cost of the switch and the laber involved will *never* be recouped.

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Huh? It takes about five minutes to install a line cord switch with screw terminals, about 90 seconds to add one that uses insulation displacement connectors. You open up the switch, slit the zip cord, pull out the hot wire, cut about an inch out of it, strip the ends, screw them down, close the case and you're done. I believe I bought a batch of three or four for a few dollars from Allelectronics, who is out of stock at the moment or else I would have used their site to as an illustration.

IMHO, putting a $2 switch on a 12V float charger turns out to be a very cost-effective investment if it keeps the charger from immolating itself from a direct short. I lost one $25 charger that way, but I haven't lost another since adding a line cord switch so that I can wait until all the battery connections are made before powering up. In the case of space heaters and electric grilles, adding a switch might help prevent an accidental activation and fire. How would you factor that potential benefit into your cost/benefit analysis? I believe it's one of the reasons the OP was looking for a shutoff switch in the first place.

Now if you're talking about what I said regarding enlarging and duplexing the outlet boxes and replacing the double outlets with a duplex switch and outlet so that each outlet has a corresponding wall switch above it, I agree that it would take a lot of labor and at least $10 in parts. However, there's no way to put a price on spouse approval and I know at least two women who would not want an extra do-hickey appearing on the end of a line cord. In fact, they probably wouldn't like the idea of a George Forman grill sitting out on the countertop when not in actual use. So adding a plug switch for such a device would be somewhat of a moot point.

As another example, I imagine there's more than one CHA'er who has switched to an expensive multibrand programmable remote for lots of extra $$$ and considerable time and effort. I imagine that at least one of them made the switch because the SAF of a coffeetable full of different remotes was so low. Hard to put a price on peace of mind.

-- Bobby G.

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Thanks! Thats exactly the kind of thing I had in mind!

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