line filter

: : If it's truly a filter, then by definition it is not needed for Internet : service. Take DSL filters as a good example. They are put on lines in your : house that do not use DSL to prevent DSL traffic from interfering with voice : traffic. But take the filters off, and DSL will still work great. Your fax : machine might not be too happy, though. :) : : Having said that, I would advise you to leave the filter alone. There are : too many horror stories about cable companies accusing DBS users of stealing : cable service, when they never even HAD cable service (legal or otherwise). : The last thing you want is to make a filter ummmm . . . "disappear" so that : now the cable company has good evidence to use against you to charge you : with cable theft. Yikes. -Dave

Yeah, good point. I guess I can just get another satellite receiver and put it in the room with the PIP TV to get dual tuners.

If it's truly a filter, then by definition it is not needed for Internet service. Take DSL filters as a good example. They are put on lines in your house that do not use DSL to prevent DSL traffic from interfering with voice traffic. But take the filters off, and DSL will still work great. Your fax machine might not be too happy, though. :)

Having said that, I would advise you to leave the filter alone. There are too many horror stories about cable companies accusing DBS users of stealing cable service, when they never even HAD cable service (legal or otherwise). The last thing you want is to make a filter ummmm . . . "disappear" so that now the cable company has good evidence to use against you to charge you with cable theft. Yikes. -Dave

Before you do that, you might want to ask your cable company how much it would cost to add basic cable. Usually there's a surcharge for cable modem service without TV service and that surcharge tends to be just about the same as the price of basic TV service.

-Larry Jones

I think my cerebellum just fused. -- Calvin

:Jason Gallas wrote: :> :> Yeah, good point. I guess I can just get another satellite receiver and put :> it in the room with the PIP TV to get dual tuners. : :Before you do that, you might want to ask your cable company how much it :would cost to add basic cable. Usually there's a surcharge for cable :modem service without TV service and that surcharge tends to be just :about the same as the price of basic TV service. : :-Larry Jones : :I think my cerebellum just fused. -- Calvin

Yes, you are correct. Limited basic cable costs $14.23, the difference in the surcharge between those that already have cable and those that do not is $14.00. I think I'll eat the 23 cents to get basic cable when my $19.95/first 6 months deal ends and have multiple tuner inputs on my brand new TV.

isnt this illegal?

The installer reluctantly

How so? I am paying for service already with internet access. The lines are already in my house and active so if I want to tap into one what is the harm? Besides, Comcast charges $14 for non-tv-subscribers the same they charge for those that subscribe to basic cable so what is the difference?

:The installer reluctantly :> agreed to not touch my box when I told him the warranty would be voided on :> it if he did but installed a filter on the line coming into the house. If :I :> remove this filter will I be able to get basic cable for free on my :> television? I only want it for football season and picture in picture so :I :> can watch two games at the same time. Do I need the filter for my :internet :> service? :

The "cable guy" has been in my house exactly once in the 20 years I have had service and I threw him out about 3 minutes into the visit when he insisted on stapling his wire along the wall. I told him to get the signals right at his Dmark outside and go away. Beyond this "free install" visit I have always just gone down to the office and picked up cable boxes, modems or whatever. Everything else has been accomplished at the Dmark. I own the wiring in my house and I maintain it.

The cable was installed, when my condo was built, with the only outlets at the far end of the unit, from my computer room. When I got cable modem service, they were offering free installs. The first guy to show up, also wanted to staple along the baseboards and around door frames. I refused. They then sent a 2 man crew, who spent 3 hours fishing the cable through my condo. They did a very nice job, with the cables visible only across the top of my laundry room. They only had to make one access hole, which they also repair. In addition to all that, they also pulled in a couple of pieces of CAT 5, from one end of my condo to the other. All in all, a very good job.