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Re: Up in An Attic In August in Yuma Arizona
On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 9:27:51 PM UTC-4, Bob La Londe wrote:
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was good  

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Holy Crap!!!
Here I am thinking a squirrel or racoon is bad.  

That reminds me of an old Peanuts cartoon I remember from long ago.

Charlie, Linus, Lucy and Schroeder are lying on a hill looking up at the cl
ouds.
.
Schroeder says "I see, Hannibal crossing the mountains on elephants". Linus
 says "I see Jesus giving the sermon on the mount". Lucy says "I see the Co
liseum in Rome" "What do you see Charlie Brown?
.
Charlie Brown says
.
"Well ?.. I was going to say I see a horsey and a ducky, but I thin
k I changed my mind"

Re: Up in An Attic In August in Yuma Arizona
Hi,  

I have worked in the far south, where the attics in the summer are at about
 140 deg+ w/no ventilation fans, nor ridge-vents, and you only allow yourse
lf 5-8 min at most. One such journey, was in an attic with scissor-trusses  
that allow a cathedral ceiling in the room below. There was at most a 24" c
learance at the peak, by about 30" wide in a triangular space (not square t
russ access), but I had to get to the other side of the house for wiring. A
s I crawled thru, I noticed a carpenter ant nest in the batt insulation whe
re I needed to pass. I figured I could go over them with 4-5 inches clearan
ce and did so successfully. After I finished my wiring, I had to go back th
ru the same pathway. Well, by then, my vibrations after having gone over th
em the 1st time, had seriously agitated them. By now, my breathing was labo
red and it is afternoon hot-sun time, and I have to get out since I have sp
ent my precious time slot away. Somehow, I was able to slowly crawl with on
ly my hands and toes on the rafters, while there was by now about a hundred
 or so of them in an agitated 'bite-him-now' mood. I did make it to cooler  
pastures and never dared to do that again. If they had gotten to me, I prob
ably would have just jumped thru the drywall ceiling and told the customer  
that the ants overpowered me. Enjoy.

Hogan


Re: Up in An Attic In August in Yuma Arizona
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 5:44:10 PM UTC-4, Hogan wrote:
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ut 140 deg+ w/no ventilation fans, nor ridge-vents, and you only allow your
self 5-8 min at most. One such journey, was in an attic with scissor-trusse
s that allow a cathedral ceiling in the room below. There was at most a 24"
 clearance at the peak, by about 30" wide in a triangular space (not square
 truss access), but I had to get to the other side of the house for wiring.
 As I crawled thru, I noticed a carpenter ant nest in the batt insulation w
here I needed to pass. I figured I could go over them with 4-5 inches clear
ance and did so successfully. After I finished my wiring, I had to go back  
thru the same pathway. Well, by then, my vibrations after having gone over  
them the 1st time, had seriously agitated them. By now, my breathing was la
bored and it is afternoon hot-sun time, and I have to get out since I have  
spent my precious time slot away. Somehow, I was able to slowly crawl with  
only my hands and toes on the rafters, while there was by now about a hundr
ed or so of them in an agitated 'bite-him-now' mood. I did make it to coole
r pastures and never dared to do that again. If they had gotten to me, I pr
obably would have just jumped thru the drywall ceiling and told the custome
r that the ants overpowered me. Enjoy.
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Hi Hogan, Welcome.

In Les's case above, at least the "smell" would have attracted someone even
tually.  


But in your situation, through the drywall ceiling would have been my exit  
also. Because otherwise, I would have envisioned me as a picked to the bone
 skeleton sitting in the attic for eternity. And the homeowners every once  
in a while saying " Hey ?.. I wonder what ever happened to that ala
rm guy who was working here"  


Re: Up in An Attic In August in Yuma Arizona
On 8/19/2018 5:44 PM, Hogan wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I hav
e worked in the far south, where the attics in the sum
mer are at about 140 deg+ w/no ventilation fans, nor r
idge-vents, and you only allow yourself 5-8 min at mos
t. One such journey, was in an attic with scissor-trus
ses that allow a cathedral ceiling in the room below.
There was at most a 24" clearance at the peak, by abou
t 30" wide in a triangular space (not square truss acc
ess), but I had to get to the other side of the house
for wiring. As I crawled thru, I noticed a carpenter a
nt nest in the batt insulation where I needed to pass.
 I figured I could go over them with 4-5 inches cleara
nce and did so successfully. After I finished my wirin
g, I had to go back thru the same pathway. Well, by th
en, my vibrations after having gone over them the 1st
time, had seriously agitated them. By now, my breathin
g was labored and it is afternoon hot-sun time, and I
have to get out since I have spent my precious time sl
ot away. Somehow, I was able to slowly crawl with only
 my hands and toes on the rafters, while there was by
now about a hundred or so of them in an agitated 'bite
-him-now' mood. I did make it to cooler pastures and n
ever dared to do that again. If they had gotten to me,
 I probably would have just jumped thru the drywall ce
iling and told the customer that the ants overpowered
me. Enjoy.
>  
> Hogan
>  
 
 
Welcome to the neighb
orhood Hogan,
 
Minus the Carpenter Ants I would have
 showed up early in the morning
to beat the heat.  Gl
ad you made it out to tell the story.
 
The only thin
g I can relate to with Carpenter Ants is that a number
 of
years ago we had some heavy winds in our area.  A
 tree behind my house
snapped off at about 35 feet up
.  Hit the back of the house, ripped the
spouting, si
ding off and missed the sliding glass door.  Very luck
y,
insurance fixed it all.  Upon inspection there was
 a hole where there  
use to be a limb and the inside
of the tree was a chamber of thin walls.
The white or
 soft portion of the rings (cambium) of the tree had b
een  
eaten out by Carpenter Ants. This was a section
of about 6 feet in  
length of a tree that was easily
18" to 20" in diameter and 70 feet
tall.  I dropped t
he rest of the tree down and killed a lot of ants.
 

About 2 years later I was in my basement and notice a
Carpenter Ant
going across the floor and up the wall.
  It disappeared in the
fiberglass insulation between
 the floor joist.  I thought I would check  
the insul
ation batting and got my step stool.  I pulled the sec
tion down
and that is when I was covered in 1000++ AN
TS.  After screaming like a
banshee and brushing as m
any off as I could I got the can of Raid and
used up
a full can killing the suckers.  Ended up sweeping and
 shoveling
up the piles until all were gone.  The nex
t day we fumigated the house
with about 4 bombs.  And
 then again in about a month.
 
Haven't see another s
ince.  That was about 34 years ago and I remember
it
very well.  Very horrible feeling.  What I suspected i
s that when the
tree snapped off somehow the Queen fo
und refuse in my house and just
what came naturally,
and that was to lay eggs and more eggs. Never saw
any
 damage to any wood in the house flooring or framing.
 They must have
gone outside to my other trees to fee
d.
 
BTW I did not get any bites from the ants.  Mayb
e I didn't give them
a chance to put up their defense
s.
 
Les
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Up in An Attic In August in Yuma Arizona
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 11:37:06 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
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bout 140 deg+ w/no ventilation fans, nor ridge-vents, and you only allow yo
urself 5-8 min at most. One such journey, was in an attic with scissor-trus
ses that allow a cathedral ceiling in the room below. There was at most a 2
4" clearance at the peak, by about 30" wide in a triangular space (not squa
re truss access), but I had to get to the other side of the house for wirin
g. As I crawled thru, I noticed a carpenter ant nest in the batt insulation
 where I needed to pass. I figured I could go over them with 4-5 inches cle
arance and did so successfully. After I finished my wiring, I had to go bac
k thru the same pathway. Well, by then, my vibrations after having gone ove
r them the 1st time, had seriously agitated them. By now, my breathing was  
labored and it is afternoon hot-sun time, and I have to get out since I hav
e spent my precious time slot away. Somehow, I was able to slowly crawl wit
h only my hands and toes on the rafters, while there was by now about a hun
dred or so of them in an agitated 'bite-him-now' mood. I did make it to coo
ler pastures and never dared to do that again. If they had gotten to me, I  
probably would have just jumped thru the drywall ceiling and told the custo
mer that the ants overpowered me. Enjoy.
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I'm sure you've had others tell you that you're "distasteful" also.  (zing)
~:-)

A few times I've had carpenter ant problems too. Don't be too sure they did
n't do any damage. Maybe not enough to cause structural damage but you can  
bet that if you opened the drywall in that area you'd, at the minimum, see  
gouged out "trails" in the wall studs. On jobs, I've even seen them leave t
rails in the drywall. Might even find some of their little carpenter tools  
they left behind.  

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