PR: Brinks vs. Tech-man.com

Jim Rojas · 2006-10-29T02:55:11+00:00

It seems Brinks Home Security is threatened by what I am able to do with their antique equipment. Brinks claims they own all equipment even if it ends up in the trash...interesting reading, if you want a good laugh... :) Enjoy! feel free to pass this to everyone in the security industry, including all trade publications. Some editor may find this worthy of a news article.Jim RojasTechnical Manuals Online!

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Frank Olson 19 years ago

unauthorized reproduction, regardless if others are also

of websites offer them but made no attempt to halt

they've got deep pockets.

First of all, they're "end user" manuals. Brinks (for quite some time) allowed open access to their manuals "online". They acknowledged this in one of the letters to Jim. As long as Jim acknowledges the copyright (doesn't try to provide manuals with his own logo in place of the Brinks ones), and DOESN'T CHARGE FOR THEM, he should be OK.

They do have "deep pockets" though. If they DO decide to pursue legal action, I'll be first in line to help out with a significant donation to Jim's Defense fund. Since they were kind enough to provide a copy of their contract, I'd like to put it on the

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website. I think it's a sterling example of exactly why you shouldn't "buy" one of their systems.

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Jim Rojas 19 years ago

I already removed the links to their manuals, which I have no problem with. As far as the rest of their demands, they can basically huff all they want to.

Jim Rojas

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Robert L Bass 19 years ago

Precisely!

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Mark Leuck 19 years ago

And I am tired of those who think this is why when it's not, THE REASON it is done is to streamline the installation process and prevent incorrect programming. When you are a company the size of Brinks and you don't do that you end up with 5,000 different ways to program the same panel. Few installers do it correctly

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Everywhere Man 19 years ago

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Frank Olson 19 years ago

Man... Workin' for ADT must be a nightmare then. How many times have they changed manufacturer's in the last couple of years??

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Everywhere Man 19 years ago

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Mark Leuck 19 years ago

Only because you installed it

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Matt Ion 19 years ago

Not even as compost?

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Everywhere Man 19 years ago

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Mark Leuck 19 years ago

environmentally

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Mark Leuck 19 years ago

Oh thanks Tom, I had signed an NDA on that new Loxxon and you just blew it

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Matt Ion 19 years ago

Didn't even think of that. Silly me.

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Crash Gordon 19 years ago

not to mention the engineer-type homeowners who believe they can program anything.

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Robert L Bass 19 years ago

And I am tired of you posting this BS. The primary reason for panel lockout codes is to make it more difficult for homeowneres to switch service providers or go it alone. It has nothing to do with streamlining anything.

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Frank Olson 19 years ago

Y'know... those kinda people don't bother me nearly as much as the jerk that says he can teach you how to "professionally install" a home alarm system in about two hours over the phone.

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G. Morgan 19 years ago

codes is to make it more difficult for homeowneres to

streamlining anything.

Why are you telling Crash that?

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Frank Olson 19 years ago

codes is to make it more difficult for homeowneres to

streamlining anything.

Nope. Once again, you "miss" the real reason and fill the group with more of your Basspeak. I wouldn't expect someone without insurance, licensing or bonding to care one way or the other anyway.

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Allan Waghalter 19 years ago

Robert, I beg to disagree with you on this one. The cost of replacing a board is so low as to virtually eliminate your argument on fear of takeovers. I don't lock a panel out but do use my own programmers code. The reason for not wanting the owner to have access to the panel is to prevent him from accidentally changing a setting that will prevent the system from functioning correctly and therefore exposing us to litigation.

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