snerk!!
snerk!!
Doubt all you like.
Jim, You seem to have led a charmed life that has never taken you down the yellow brick road to the Courthouse, especially the Federal Courthouse. Unfortunately for me I have gone down that road too many times. I have had
11 lawyers working on cases for me all at one time. You finally realize how far you gone when lawyers take you into their office and question you about legal procedures WITHOUT sending you a bill. In other words you have become a resource for them. I mentioned (guessed) at a $25K retainer in other posts as a starting point for legal fees. Now you have confirmed that as a valid number. I know this $25K sounds like a lot of money (and it is) but this is really chump change for any scrap involving the Federal Court System, especially against an adversary that has its own internal legal force (more or less). These guys can make a lot of work (and money for themselves) for the other side by filing motion after motion. Billing by the hour generates cash for Brinks' attorneys but will erode your $25K retainer well before discovery is over, let alone trial. Depending on Brinks' appetite for escalating this it could be a lot more than $25K before appeals begin. It is like that old car repair commercial. "You can pay me now or you can pay me later". You can try an end run and file for Federal Bankruptcy protection PRIOR to any judgments being entered against you. By going into Bankruptcy you will receive protection from the court from any litigation efforts of Brinks against you. In fact if you hire a real bastard bankruptcy attorney he can actually get Brinks' attorneys tossed into jail themselves when they continue to hassle you (which they will try to do because that is how they bill Brinks for their services). If you file Chapter 11 or 13 you could so foul up Brinks plans for you that they'll want to reach some other "accommodation" with you and the Bankruptcy Court. Once you have that "accommodation" in hand you can postpone and eventually dismiss your own Bankruptcy almost as if it never happened. One needs to be VERY careful in this strategy since you could go to jail yourself for using the inadvertent consequences of filing Bankruptcy as a legal defense strategy. However a pissed off attorney with plenty of years of experience in Bankruptcy (and plenty of free liquor) can be a gold mine as to how to pursue these guys via the legal back door for cheap. Brinks knows full well the legal techniques for derailing their plans for you. Making the right legal moves will signal to Brinks that you know too, and the party will be over for Brinks. Brinks attorneys' aren't out to win so much as they're out to bill. When you take the cash away from an attorney you take everything away. There are two things that are simply poison for an attorney. One is no cash (that is like the garlic for a vampire) and the other is they HATE to lose (that is the stake through the heart for the vampire). Bankruptcy means they can't get money (because they can't bill for attacking you anymore), and they can't win (because they can't attack you anymore). It is like removing AC and battery from an alarm system. They'll move on to figure their next payday strategy for fleecing their own client (Brinks) with some other trumped up legal BS. Attorneys are easy to defeat once you figure out the technique for cutting off funds, or their access to funds, and making victory impossible to obtain or (worse) even define. They will never stick to any case based on "principles" (they simply have none), or for being "in it" for the client. Looking for an attorney that sides with you and takes the case based on its merits is like looking for a virgin in a whorehouse. Its fruitless of course, and only an entertaining search only if you like attorneys or w***es, both in the business of screwing people for (and out of) money, and each using the exact same moral code. You might hear some type of BS "good guy" rhetoric from time to time from an attorney, but that would really be a smokescreen for hiding the fact that they have been had (financially) and the court WON'T let them off the case they accepted. A real attorney would never dispute what I have said here (mostly because there is no money to be made by doing so) but also because it is so easy to list names, dates, times, places, faces, and cases to support what I have said. Think of what you have to do to win with the resources you have at hand. You'll never win if you fight on Brinks terms, and on Brinks turf, using only your own efforts."Jim Rojas" wrote in message news:4698ebf7$0$31225$ snipped-for-privacy@roadrunner.com...
WELL said!!
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The problem with filing for bankruptcy is it ruins your credit for years to come. Once you've done it you can't get a decent loan rate on anything. Credit card processing companies may refuse to work with your website. Also, bankrupptcy does not protect any liquid assets or chatel property you may have. In Florida your homestead ("house" for all you Texans and other species of snowbird) is sacrosanct but almost nothing else is.
Bankruptcy is not a shelter beneath which you can hunker down with your cash and other personal property. Anyone who succeeds against you in court will have to wait his turn behind other creditors who will get first dibs on your assets. When it's all done you'll have your home and not mch more. Also, filing for bankruptcy right after a default judgment has been obtained against you will not sit well with the courts. The federal court can decide that the bankruptcy filing is just a ploy and over ride it.
What Jim Rojas really should do is hire a competent attorney and then follow his advice.
There are what are called automatic stays when you file for bankruptcy. Automatic protection from Brinks is included in that realm of protection. Yes, one court (especially Federal) can protect you from actions from any other court. In order for Brinks to continue against Jim, Brinks would have to petition the bankruptcy court for permission. In that bankruptcy court environment Jim could ramble on about the "facts" he mentioned here, without the normal legal impediments in play, and Brinks would probably not win such an effort. Brinks probably wouldn't even file the motion because it would not be in Texas, but Florida, and they know they would not be granted the motion with the facts as they are. Brinks attorneys will be in violation of the law if they filed any more actions against Jim, even if they were not directly informed of the bankruptcy. Once informed, if Brinks' attorneys persist they could be cited for contempt and ordered to jail. It would be so cool to have a Federal Marshall show up to their office and haul them off to jail. Lawyers know that can be done be they seldom do it to each other. That is why I suggested hiring a really mean bankruptcy attorney, because there are a few that will do it. Robert, your admonitions about bankruptcy and its aftermath are noted, however just like you could file for divorce and not go through with it and you'd still be married, same thing with bankruptcy. If you go into bankruptcy, and once Brinks is gone, then come out again. There are many types of bankruptcy filings. Some types are literally a shelter from your creditors (and legal adversaries) "beneath which you can hunker down with your cash and other personal property". That is the nature of "debtor in possession". In all you years in business you never received any notice of bankruptcy filings from clients? I have had plenty. If it is a chapter 7 liquidation that is one thing, and that is what you seem to be describing. Other bankruptcy filings leave you in charge and your creditors holding the bag waiting for some partial repayment. In any case what chances to you give Jim going through this against Brinks pro se? What do you suspect he'll be left with after Brinks is finished with him versus a bankruptcy filing? Jim has not seen the need to hire an attorney and unless you are offering to pay his legal bills, I suspect no one else is either. Bankruptcy is one simple way he could get Brinks off his ass and not spend a fortune (I think the filing fee is less than $300) doing it.
"Robert L Bass" wrote in message news:ufjmi.343$fj5.0@trnddc08...
You forgot to mention the funny wig. ;-)
He already has one I hear that he keeps next to his mini skirt and fish net stocking for Saturday night outings. I am told all the boys fight over him when he dresses up.
Mr Sablemann,
Your reply to my motion just proves my point on how pathetic Brink's position really is...you can quote me on this if you like. You Mr Sablemann are a waste of human life. You would probably do better chasing ambulances. Your client is a huge eye sore in the alarm industry. Your client should just stick to transporting money. Your client has no idea what real security means. 3 doors and a motion detector for $99 is not security, it is a false sense of one.
I laugh at you.
Jim Rojas
Crash Gord> be careful what you say here
Thank you for the email. You can send the items to the address on my website.
Jim Rojas
DK wrote: At 1:09 PM 7/24/2007
Damn Jim. I just read all those PDF files. I am sending you all the brinks install manuals, programmers, dealer handbooks, and anything else I have left here of theirs. Those cocksuckers really have a pair of balls. They pissed me off by back charging me for accounts I never even put online for them. They even had the balls to send me bills for my office alarm, and my home alarm as well, even though no brinks system was ever installed there. They are all scumbags. If you need any help with learning how to program their systems, give me a call. I would be more than happy to help you out in anyway I can. They f***ed me over bigtime. Its time for payback.
Later. DK
Bill wrote:
Paraphrasing a movie quote here. You can't blame a lawyer for being a lawyer any more than you can blame a dog for being a dog.
Jim you might be missing the point here. Mr. Sablemann gets paid, like all vermin lawyers like him do I suspect, by billing by the hour. So when he files a motion against you that is only one part of the bill he gets to create. With every motion he gets to send another bill explaining to the customer what he did (or didn't do) in the motion he filed. Then he gets to bill for their return phone calls about future strategy etc. Believe me this whole thing (as difficult as it may be for you to accept) has absolutely nothing to do with you. It is simply the more he can file, the more money he gets. There is no way you could make him feel anything good or bad about himself as a lawyer or human being. That might be like trying to make Hermann Goering feel bad about signing the orders to wipe out the Jews. Practicing law is simply something he does, and feels he does well, and get paid to do it. It is just a money thing. Nothing more. If you want to bug him get see that he doesn't win and doesn't get paid. The first will annoy him and the later will kill him. Calling him a waste of human life is merely stating the obvious, and encouraging him to chase ambulances would be an otherwise undeserved step up the career ladder. It is obvious that he views you as an under educated, low paid unskilled tradesman of sorts that is barely worth his attention. If it wasn't for Brinks paying the freight he would have little to do with you. This is nothing he would take on as a cause for himself, as his overblown legal advocacy seems to suggest. Until Brinks give up, using this forum for taunting or revenge might be an activity you want to save for another day. What you say here can only hurt you there. Good luck.
"Jim Rojas" wrote in message news:46a7bab8$0$29704$ snipped-for-privacy@roadrunner.com...
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