RFC 2979

No one gives a rat's ass but you little Cyberdrool you whining little

So, post his exact response. It still won't change that fact that no government agency, no medical group, not business that cares about their data, not residential user that can value/afford a firewall would choose a simple NAT ROUTER which doesn't block by default. Routing is not firewalling.

The response was pretty simple: "My position is that the presence of filtering makes it a firewall."

That is the point. Routing doesn't make a firewall, per se (although the side effect offers more security than nothing at all), but filtering does. Most all simple NAT router/firewalls offer some filtering capabilities. Hence the use of the word firewall in the product description.

Of course a business won't use devices designed for home users. The NASA blockhouse is also much more of a "firewall" than a residential apartment building would offer.

No, routing is not firewalling. That is why the devices are called "Firewall Routers", "Router with Firewall", etc.

This all depends on definition BTW:

Yours, VB.