Close Port 113 - Observation

Jul 27, 2004 10 Replies

And that can be trusted. It really is true.

Wolfgang Kueter writes:

That is your first step. You may want to look at the local schools of higher education. In the states, this also means the community colleges as well as the regular 4 year schools..

If your local library is on the ball, they also have some decent books to look for. The classic might be "TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 1" by the late W. Richard Stevens (Addison Wesley ISBM 0-201-63346-9, expen$ive).

Experience - it comes with the territory.

Old guy

Starting a new thread because this observation is not intended to help with the "stealth" testing of port 113 from just above.



Nevertheless, it seems to me (an ordinary, everyday user) that to understand, at a user level, the business of internet security one must be an EXPERT on who are the EXPERTS! Frankly, I can't tell anymore.



I have no recommendations. I have no solutions.



And I don't know enough to know whose guidance to follow. All in all, a very frustrating situation for me and many other "ordinary, everyday users."



The journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

No one here is omniscient.

Its simple, leave the ident port alone.

Your router responds the way it does because that's what it *should* do.

greg

Lurk. Pick a few groups of interest and read them regularly. Follow the arguments. You'll be surprised how much you can pick up by osmosis. You'll soon figure out who has good information and who just likes to hear him or herself talk and who has an agenda. Every group has a core of regulars in all those categories. Groups tend to be self regulating to a large extent, despite the apparent chaos. You'll soon figure out who you can rely on for good information.

Read some good technical books about network communication and get from these the knowledge so that you can make up your mind yourself in the future.

Wolfgang

Yes you have

Yes you have.

The recommendation is: Leave Port 113 alone. If nothing on your machine is listening to it, it's closed, end of story.

Everybody keeps telling you that "stealthing" it would be useless at best, and might do more harm than good.

What's so difficult to understand about this?

Juergen Nieveler

Remember: Computer technology (hard/software) is still in its infancy. The IT world is still a FAST moving target.

Maybe, just maybe, in 50 yrs or so, will the dust have settled.

Makning software is a human activity, ruled by knowledge, taste, politics, coffee, money. Which makes it impossible to say what/who/where/when is good/better/best.

They don't make bad refrigerators anymore, no really bad cars, no bad handheld calculators.

Software is another story. making software is at the limits of human possibilities.

Always remember that computer technology (hard/software) is still in its infancy. And we are the priviledged ones that see it grow up.

frgr Erik

This post had little to do with Port 113 ... had to do with another point, but you seem to not understand. Others have offered some sound guidance nevertheless.

Juergen Nieveler wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@nieveler.org:

The old saying is you can lead a horse to water............

Duane :)

You are talking about this:

And you complain that nobody helped you with your problem of "stealthing port 113".

I have made the point that many people DID help you - it just wasn't the answer you were hoping to get. Nevertheless, it was the right answer, like it or not: Don't bother "stealthing" any ports, especially not Port 113.

Juergen Nieveler

Is that why you put "port 113" in the subject?

Thor

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