New CCNA Candidate

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Hi, all!

I find myself unemployed from the automotive business (service
manager, never a wrench-turner), and quite frankly, I am sick of the
business. All the negative things you've heard about the business ARE
TRUE!!  I got into the business because (1) I am good at selling, and
(2) I wanted to make a difference for my customers. Well, SCREW THAT!!

I now have the opportunity to get some free, government paid training
for a career change. I have been building PC's since 1980 (!), and
have even set up a 3-node network in my home in the past using NetBEUI
(ugh!). I never considered networking as a career, mainly because
after passing the MCP test (2000 & Network Essentials), I was soooo
bored with the whole OSI model that it made me wonder how anyone could
enjoy that to the point of making a career out of it. Boy, was I
wrong!

I have been going over a Cisco CBT I downloaded a couple of days ago,
and whaddaya know? I GET IT!!  I guess being an old DOS/CPM jockey
helps, yes?

Background: I'm 55, but have been playing with PC's since they were
invented (1980). Had a job with CSC for a few years as a QA Analyst in
1998 (hated it!) before the Dot Com implosion. Found myself
down-sized, and with a bad taste in my mouth for IT in general. That's
how I ended up in automotive.

Now, with that said, here's my question for the group:
I find I have a real understanding of the whole networking concept,
and am going to get CCNA certified in a couple of weeks. I don't care
if I get stuck as a Net Admin for a few weeks or months, since I'm
going to go the CCNP route ASAP anyway.

 WILL MY AGE BE A DETRIMENT IN FINDING A NETWORK JOB??

I have my B.S. in Business Administration, but I don't think it'll be
much help, and I won't go back to school for a CS degree. I'm mainly
interested in a career that'll let me make pretty good money for the
next 10-12 years, and then I'm going to retire. I hope to put my
natural tech geekiness to good use in the network field.

Any responses will be appreciated.

Bruce



Re: New CCNA Candidate
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:35:17 -0400, Bruce @Home.info wrote:

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Can you elaborate on that?  Is it some special circumstance, is there
some possibility of that for me as well.

I'm 40, and also in the middle of a major career change.

And good for you for getting out of something that makes you
miserable.

Re: New CCNA Candidate
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:46:39 GMT, Mitch@_._ wrote:

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There is a Federal program available called WIA, for Workforce
Investment Act. Here's the copy from the Ga. DOL:

Workforce Investment Act (WIA) One-Stop Workforce System
Summary for Job Seekers
The federal Workforce Investment Act was signed into law in August
1998, and went into effect in Georgia in July 2000. Then Governor
Barnes designated the Georgia Department of Labor as the state agency
responsible for WIA. The Governor also appointed a state Workforce
Investment Board to help plan and develop Georgia’s overall workforce
system.
In Georgia, there are 20 local service delivery areas. In each area
there is a local Workforce Investment Board, appointed by local
elected officials. Local boards are responsible for designing local
workforce systems that are employer led, demand driven, customer
friendly and continuously improving. No two local systems look alike,
since the workforce needs of communities differ.
Each workforce area has at least one comprehensive one-stop workforce
center that provides job seekers and employers a wide range of
workforce services. In Georgia there are over 45 comprehensive
one-stop centers (with two-thirds of these being GDOL career centers).
In addition to these comprehensive sites, many communities have other
places for customers to access workforce services, often called
“satellites.” These sites range from libraries to technical colleges
to welfare offices to kiosks at a mall.
A wide range of services is available at no cost to individuals (and
employers) at one-stop centers, with most centers offering a new
customer orientation to their services. Typical services for job
seekers include job search assistance and job matching; labor market
information about “hot” jobs in demand and salary ranges, etc.; help
in exploring training/education opportunities; and financial aid
application assistance. Many of these basic services are available on
a self-service basis via computer for customers who are interested in
this approach.
Career counselors are available for customers who want more intensive
help:
• Exploring careers and making career choices, assessing skills,
abilities and interests…
• Learning about the full range of workforce-related services in the
community, including specialized services for persons who are laid
off, youth, persons with disabilities, older workers…
• Finding out where to get training, including classroom training,
on-the-job training and customized training if available…
• Putting together a financial aid strategy to help meet the expenses
of education and training…
• Addressing special needs or circumstances that have made it hard to
get or keep a job…
• Getting support services such as childcare or transportation
services while attending school or working…
Some customers are eligible for Workforce Investment Act funding
through the WIA Individual Training Account Eligible Provider/Program
List System, if certain criteria or conditions are met. Eligibility
requirements for training services are somewhat different in each
area, based on local workforce needs and conditions and the policies
developed to meet those needs. Job seekers can browse occupational
skills training programs approved for Individual Training Account
funding online, but must work with a career counselor to determine
potential eligibility for funding.
Contact the one-stop workforce center serving your area to learn about
the specific workforce services available in your community and the
best way to access them - for example, to get a map, to learn whether
an appointment is required, or whether new customer orientations are
offered certain days or times.

The bottom line is that these are "grants" of up to $4,000 that DO NOT
HAVE TO BE PAID BACK to get training. The only catch is: you have to
be unemployed. Count me in. I'm still paying off my student loan for
the college degree ;-{

And another program will pay my unemployment while I work for a
potential employer, for a max of 30 hrs a week, for a max of 6 weeks.

I think I see a way to get a good job at no risk to a potential
employer.

Bruce

Re: New CCNA Candidate
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 >  WILL MY AGE BE A DETRIMENT IN FINDING A NETWORK JOB??
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Bruce, you're only as old as the girl you feel...  or something like
that.  :-)  Isn't it against the law to discriminate on age anyway?

The real question you should ask yourself is "will I enjoy a job working
in an environment dominated by guys in their late 20's?"

If you can say "yes" and you 'get' and enjoy networking then go for it mate.

Good luck and keep us posted on your certification status.


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Bruce,

Here is a little encouragement.  I got my first IT job at the age of
54.  I had been in computer and software sales for 17 years.  I am now
65 and have enjoyed working in IT very much.  I got an MCSE for
Windows NT.  I have studied a lot of Cisco stuff and manage our
routers and switches.  I have also learned to configure an ASA 5500.
I did try for the CCENT exam a few months ago and failed it
miserably.  To much data for my old brain plus some of the questions
are real vague.  I built a lab with an access switch, a frame relay
switch and three routers and two switches.  I can try stuff on this
before I do it on the production network and it is a good lerning tool
along with the Trainsignal Cisco Trianing DVDs.

Go for it.

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