CertGuard - Info?

Hi IT Community,

I decided to do some research on this so called

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I see post over post about these braindumps. Well, let me tell you something, I have done some extensive research on this CertGuard company and I warn everybody to make a decision for themselves on this company. CertGuard claims to watch for companies that state you will pass on your first try, any company that offers 100% Pass Guarantee and not a 100% Money Back Guarantee, what is the difference? There is no difference. What seems to be really funny is that my best friend ordered off transcender.com the so called (Reader's Choice Award) and found their questions to be identical to the real exam. So, where does CertGuard go off stating that
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and other sites listed on there website are clean when in fact they are not. Every single vendor out there put's real if not very very similar exam questions related to the real exam. You can view the list of the so called CertGuard's clean list below:

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Now, you see many companies listed here: "Wonder if these companies are paying for this?"

Now, let's look at

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the so called (Reader's Choice Award) winner. Which many many people have stated that in fact they do provide the exact questions on there products.

According to Certguard.com, CertGuard states to stay away from the below websites that state the below:

i. Every website that is owned by TestKing provides braindumps. Yes, it's that obvious! If just ONE of TestKing's websites provides braindumps, ALL of them do.

ii. Sites that advertise 'Actual Exam Questions & Answers' are most likely passing off braindumps.

iii. Sites that offer a '100% Pass Guarantee on the FIRST try' (most legitimate sites will offer a Money Back Guarantee, but this is completely different than guaranteeing you a passing score.) Make sure you read their Disclaimer before you jump into any commitments. OR ASK US!!!!

iv. Access to ALL of their practice exams for X number of dollars is another sign of a braindump, no legitimate corporation can afford to just give away their material for next to nothing. We've seen legitimate practice exam run for as little as $40 or as much as $300 per exam, but we've never seen a legitimate site offer ALL of their Exams in a bundle for such a cheap price.

v. Legitimate Practice Exams will generally cost around $100 per CD (or Exam), unless the Test Prep provider is offering a discount, but even then the kits are no less than $50 per CD. If you're looking at buying a bundle of exams for that price, then you're almost sure to be purchasing braindumps.

vi. PDFs!! Not every PDF is a braindump, and not every braindump is a PDF, but the odds of getting a PDF that isn't a braindump is pretty rare. DON'T TRUST PDFs!!!

Well, looking at

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I found the below:

Furthermore, you can view more about there guarantee below:

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They will refund your purchase the first time if you fail. Now this is just one of the sites I picked on CertGuard's so called clean list.

Click also the link below:

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You will see an image with a guy jumping with his leg's open, Read what it states: You will Pass the First Time Guarantee. End Of Discussion. (This is the exact wording used on jrksoftware.com, another well known braindump provider)

Proof backing up my claim on transcender. Please click the below posts in newsgroups made by people ordering from transcender.

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Below is also another post from David Mickelson stating that Microsoft does not support transcender.

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The link below is another post you can view on transcender's from the user Coffee.

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I can add more and more posts on this subject regarding Transcender but I will stop here, you can do this research yourself, but I warn you, watch for transcender staff trying to convince you otherwise on the newsgroups.

To make a long story short, no one really knows if CertGuard is getting paid off, only they know. It is so funny on how they defend websites that they state are clean when people who have actually ordered from those sites state otherwise.

My opinions are expressed below on the whole topic of braindumps and CertGuard: Please feel free to comment on this.

  1. Braindumps don't hurt the IT industry. The Hiring Managers Incompetence is what is Hurting the IT industry. What's hurting the IT industry are incompetent hiring managers. When hiring IT staff, it is up to the employer to determine the applicant has the necessary IT skills and knowledge to perform in their job to back up their certification, and not just assume they do simply because they are certified. People who use braindumps and just plain memorize questions are easily detected by any competent hiring manager during the first interview.

For example, if we were to compare 2 candidates with a CCNA certification being interviewed for the same job, and lets say one studied via CCNA instructor led classes and books, and the other simply braindumps. During the first interview, the hiring manager would surely ask the candidates some technical questions based on their CCNA assumed knowledge and skills like describe the OSI layers and their functions or something like this. The candidate that only memorized the braindumps to pass the exam would not know how to reply where as the candidate who studied hard would easily be able to answer the question.

I know when I was interviewed for my job, I was tested on configuring a Cisco router with NAT, also doing an IOS upgrade on a router, and configuring MPLS on the router. I passed but the manager took extra steps to ensure that I did indeed know what I was talking about. So, what I am saying is to educate managers and companies to test there employee's instead of just assuming that they are good.

  1. CertGuard looks to me to support braindump sites, and possibly has a financial interest in their supposed clean list of sites it supports. CertGaurd clearly offers only biased information so take everything you read from any of them carefully, in fact, I would not trust them at all!

Reasons they are exploiting the IT industry is because they clearly state certain sites are clean when any newbie to this industry can tell they are not, and also because they are profiting from selling advertising space on their website all in the name of their bogus war on IT Braindumps and cheaters.

How do we know if any of them are actually certified? How did they get their certifications? Maybe they bought them from testking? How can we trust a group of online posters who seem to use Nazi-Like rhetoric and Communist type phrases? Don't take my word for it, just check any of their posts and you will surely see this to be the case.

Clearly, by simple investigation anyone can see that many of the sites Certguard supports are Braindumps ie. QuickCert.com, Trancender.com, Certways.com, jrksoftware.com etc...

Could it be possible that Certguard is receiving some form of financial compensation for their support of these known braindump providers? I would have to say yes since their War on Braindumps etc.. is simply an exploit of this issue for financial gain as they are selling advertising on their website.

As we all know, if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. This has been my experience specifically with Certguard. At first glance, I thought, finally, someone who will actually do something to clean up the IT industry, but after really looking into their website, it seems 100% clear that they have a financial interest in this so called War on Braindumps. I would like to suggest that Robert Williams rename this war to "My War Against Braindump Sites I Am Not Profiting From!" because clearly as you will see below, many of the sites listed on his bogus clean list are actually well know braindumps sites which are probably paying him:

- QuickCert.com - They Claim this site is clean:

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Clearly, this site is not clean because they have a direct link from certifyexpress.com, braindumpcentral.com, braindumps.com, which Certguard knows is a Testking owned website and a well known braindump promoting site as you will see below:

On the homepage of certifyexpress.com, you will notice the very top banner advertising for Testking.com, then the one just below it advertising for Quickcert.com, and then there are 3 links for Actual- Exams.com, Testking.com and you guessed it, Quickcert.com. Clearly, you cannot dispute this evidence and clearly, certguard must have some financial interest in promoting quickcert.com.

Here is another list from a CertGuard post which lists Braindump free sites:

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out of this list, there are clearly well KNOWN braindump sites like:

Certways.com - a well known braindump site most likely owned by Testking with hosting on the same server as:

- Examways.com

- Examworx.com

jrksoftware.com - a longtime braindump provider using the EasyCert name their homepage clearly states "you will pass the first time guaranteed! In the left menu bar with a pic of a girl jumping for joy.

A simple backlink check will show that they have an incoming link from Examblasters.com, which is also another braindump site:

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gocertify.com - they claim to be clean, however they have a link on their site for Practice Tests with goes to goexam.com which seems to be their cover to sell braindumps with a Pass Guarantee and 25% - 50% off their products.

Transcender.com - They provide a Pass on Your First Try Guarantee and practice tests that contain actual exam questions. I know this firsthand as my best friend used their material about 1 year ago and found this to be the case. Surely not clean and also seems to have an affiliate as listed next.

studyexam4less.com/transcender.asp - They also provide braindumps and are well known to be doing this for some time now. They even have their own page outlining the 100% Pass Guarantee here:

studyexam4less.com/Transcender-Pass-the-exam-the-first-time- Guarantee.asp certsavvy.com - offers a Pass the First Time Guarantee and is known to provide real exam questions

  1. CertGuard is Childish, Immoral and Useless. They seem to always provide Useless info and no help for newcomers to the IT industry and often end up insulting and or threatening your legitimate beginner questions. CertGuard doesn't seem like a group of people I would trust with my career choices so be very careful and think for yourself.

Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about:

Post Topic: What requirement for MCSE The First Guy posts about the requirements for MCSE but no one other than Birol gives a useful reply. Cerebrus (who works for certguard) and Certguard both give useless, insulting replies and also show just how childish and immoral they are, so how could any one trust what such rude and immoral people say, without doing their own research:

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I would never ever trust my career choices with anything these animals say. They are basically wolves in sheeps clothing, trying to make a buck all while not helping and rudely poking fun at anyone that comes into their path!

And if you think I am making this up, just check any of their posts and you will surely see their wolf like attitude speak out loud:

This is in addition to what Larry J West has stated about certguard for which I agree 100%:

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Larry States: "You are right that many in the MCNGP / CertGuard group are very childish, rude beyond belief, and in most cases [90% of the time] not very helpful. Their insulting of people for no reason who are trying to help people is truly beyond my comprehension, especially since these are people who are supposedly knowledgeable enough on computers to know that UseNet exists (Not everyone does) and hence have some intelligence.

So why did you join them? I think their group's goals of stamping out proxy-testers and braindumps is very laudable, but their actions are just like the outgoing Clinton officials glueing of the "W" keys on government computers - it doesn't show any intelligence, it just shows how childish they are and destroys what credibility they did have. This is a PUBLIC forum - their actions may be fine in their fraternity houses on their college campuses, but not in the real world. Their response to you in not acknowledging that this is a problem (but just criticizing you further) is another sign that they are ignorant and do not understand or care. Until they change, I will not be joining that group, which is a shame, since I too agree with cleaning up the certification mess."

Even the criticism of you putting your "MCP" in your signature is a sign that some in the group's leadership deep down don't care about increasing the values of all certifications. They just want to justify their psychological need of putting people down and somehow believe that this is a good method of doing so.

I would like to know why you gave them credibility for their actions by joining their group.

  1. CertGuard Is not to be Trusted? Just read any of their posts and replies and you will certainly agree that they are offensive, rude, not willing to help and in the end, fraudulent as they claim to provide support for clean sites when they actually support braindump type sites.

  1. CertGuard should issue a War on Incompetent Managers. But there is no financial gain in doing that! It is 100% up to the hiring manager to weed out unqualified applicants, in reality, no one cares about braindumps. Because there is no financial gain in this reality, certguard will never come to grips with this and seems to continue to pursue their fake war on cheaters!

These are just my opinions made by facts and observations that I have seen and listed with regards to Certguard.com. You make you own decision?

I have listed posts below that you can view and see for yourself on this so called CertGuard company:

  1. Many arguments that CertGuard may be covering and providing braindumps:
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  2. Exams Required for MCSE -> LarryWestMCSD (5th post down) states that CertGuard is childish, rude and most of all not helpful. This is exactly what we want to say about them in addition to their support of apparent braindump sites and exploiting this War on Braindumps for a profit via website advertising. Below is a quote taken from this post.

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"You are right that many in the MCNGP / CertGuard group are very childish, rude beyond belief, and in most cases [90% of the time] not very helpful.

Their insulting of people for no reason who are trying to help people is truly beyond my comprehension, especially since these are people who are supposedly knowledgeable enough on computers to know that UseNet exists (Not everyone does) and hence have some intelligence. So why did you join them?

I think their group's goals of stamping out proxy-testers and braindumps is very laudable, but their actions are just like the outgoing Clinton officials glueing of the "W" keys on government computers - it doesn't show any intelligence, it just shows how childish they are and destroys what credibility they did have. This is a PUBLIC forum - their actions may be fine in their fraternity houses on their college campuses, but not in the real world. Their response to you in not acknowledging that this is a problem (but just criticizing you further) is another sign that they are ignorant and do not understand or care. Until they change, I will not be joining that group, which is a shame, since I too agree with cleaning up the certification mess.

Even the criticism of you putting your "MCP" in your signature is a sign that some in the group's leadership deep down don't care about increasing the values of all certifications. They just want to justify their psychological need of putting people down and somehow believe that this is a good method of doing so.

I would like to know why you gave them credibility for their actions by joining their group. "If you would like to read more about this post, you can view this by clicking on the link below.

  1. Transcender Vs. MeasureUp -> the majority of posts here doesn't even cover this topic, instead it is filled with childish and useless posts.

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  1. What requirement for MCSE -> First Guy posts about the requirements for MCSE but no one other than Birol gives a useful reply. Cerebrus and CertGuard both give useless, insulting replies and also show just how childish and immoral they are, so how could any moral person trust what they say without their own research:

You can view this post below:

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I can go on and on but I think I will stop here. Please feel free to post with regards to this information provided and give your views on this topic. Once again, this is just my opinion that certguard actually supports certain websites that provide braindumps and I hope people don't get fooled by this.

Cheers!!!

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kevinkops11
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Good and extensive work Kevin, I think, doing such a move like a certification guard, should come from an independent institute. Someone who is not commercially realted to any vendor of any kind, or probably supported by the exam vendors themselves.

Thank you for the insight.

Mohammed

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Mohammed Alani

I agree with you 100%, but do some research for yourself before you go accepting the drivel that kevin has posted.

I have discredited everyone of his claims, he doesn't know a thing he's talking about.

Please refer to my original response in alt.certification.mcse. Or you can view the C&P version in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

-- CertGuard

Reply to
Robert Williams [CertGuard]

Hi Kevin,

I suppose the first thing I should do is thank you for calling me out like this. It makes my day when someone such as yourself feels that we are so important that they should spend their time trying to discredit our name.

All in all, I'm glad you did some research on us, it's about time someone did. Researching newsgroups probably shouldn't have been your first choice of media, but I commend you for the effort.

Lets see what you've come up with.

NOTE: The rest of my comments will be inline, and I will try to snip as much of the useless drivel as I can so that it will make it easier for the other people to read.

If you re-read the statement, it clearly states:

"Sites that offer a '100% Pass Guarantee on the FIRST try' (most legitimate sites will offer a Money Back Guarantee, but this is completely different than guaranteeing you a passing score.) Make sure you read their Disclaimer before you jump into any commitments. OR ASK US!!!!"

Three are a few things you neglected to mention about that statement.

#1 There is a HUGE difference between a 100% PASS Guarantee and a 100% Money Back Guarantee. #2 We mention that you should read the disclaimer prior to entering any agreement with them.

If you were a Practice Test Provider, would you risk your company's earnings on a bet that EVERYONE that uses your study material will pass EVERY exam EVERY time? If you would, then you've got a lot to learn about business. There is no possible way that EVERY person can show the exact same results, it is impossible.

Lost me here, what about your best friend Arantee? Oh...I see what you've done here, you've somehow pasted in a section of some other text with the quote from my site. Nice. You really should learn to proofread your work when you're finished with it. If you're going to be attacking our professionalism, then you should really make sure all your ducks are in a row as well.

Ok, Transcender. You're obviously not aware that Kaplan Learning, Inc. purchased them back in December 2003. A simple search would have found that on their "About Us" us page

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If you aren't aware of just who Kaplan Learning is, take a look at the ownership information on the "About Us" page at
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, the #1 provider of Microsoft Practice Tests, and BTW, a Microsoft Certified Practice Test Provider (MCPTP).

Now, I have made no claims whatsoever that Transcender is an MCPTP.

Just what are you doing here? You're intermixing JRK Software with Transcender? They're not related, and they have no affiliation.

As I stated above the list of 'Clean' sites, "WARNING: THE STATUS OF THESE SITES IS UNSTABLE AND MAY CHANGE WITHOUT WARNING. CERTGUARD IS NOT LIABLE FOR LOSS OF YOUR CERTIFICATIONS IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PRACTICE EXAM PROVIDERS."

"UNSTABLE AND MAY CHANGE WITHOUT WARNING."

Now, if you or anyone else can provide me with CREDIBLE information about the status of their Test Prep materials, then please send it via our "Contacts" Page at

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Proof? What proof? You're showing the opinions of people from Newsgroup Posts.

#1, the post you linked to here was less than a year after Transcender had been bought by Kaplan Learning. And #2, the guy that commented on there being "real questions in the Transcender" most likely had an outdated version and was going off of old information that was before Kaplan had purchased them.

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There's another one, I'm not even going to read the post, LOOK AT THE DATE!!! September 11 2003, BEFORE Kaplan had purchased Transcender. You really need to do some better homework there buddy. But again, thanks for calling me out like this.

What were you thinking, that I wouldn't respond to your "insurmountable allegations"?

Did you just say you responded to this FOUR year old thread? C'Mon man, you can do better than that. Consultant, is that you???? Hahaha. Oh puh-leeeeeese!!

Dare I even look?! Hopefully it's not another 2003 post. Hmmmmm...nope, 'tis a

2000 post. Dude, c'mon!!!

Then lets hear it, please. The information you've provided thus far is worthless. Please post something tangible that we can use as evidence that CertGuard is getting 'paid off'.

I wish I was getting 'paid off'...I need something to help pay the bills so I can quit my full-time job.

You've not done as much research on us as I thought you had. Braindumps are only ONE of the many facets of our goals. Education of people like you, Employers, Clients, and Certification Vendors are all on the list of people that we are working toward educating about Braindumps and the People that use them.

Please, take a few minutes to READ what we have RECENTLY written. You can verify this information by looking at the DATE OF PUBLICATION.

The Cheating Industry that is Devaluing IT Certification Part 1:

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Anyone that has listened to your claims and false allegations has more than likely already discredited you from anything they will ever use as credible information. Everything you've provided has been useless information, it's all old, and it's all out of date. So why do you think that now is a good time to try to say that we're Wolf is Sheep's Clothing?

So, you're a newbie are you? And you've found all this out on your own, have you?

You're a perfect example of why CertGuard is here. It's the people like you that are actually destroying the IT Industry. You do all this 'research' but come up with no credible information. You really need to go back to school and get a degree, you're never going to make it in the IT Industry with your current skillset.

I have been open about my certifications from the beginning. I HAVE NO CERTIFICATIONS. The only REAL Certification that I HAD, I renounced. For those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, do some research.

Yup, everyone of those sites you mentioned are 'clean' and if you knew how to do some REAL research, you would have figured that out for yourself.

You can't just look at the google ads and say that a site supports braindumps. You've gotta REALLY, dig in deep, and pry at some of the nails that are holding it all together before you can actually see what is underneath the surface.

Please, don't try to discredit us until you can make yourself fully credible. You have done nothing here that has increased your credibility, and to be honest, it hasn't discredited us one bit. So your efforts were a complete waste of time, yours and mine. Now, I will not be replying to any more of your posts, because, frankly, I have more important items on my list...like wash my car.

I can assure you that not a single one of the sites listed below are 'braindump' sites. But to help matters here, I am rechecking all of the sites to make sure that their status has not changed over the past couple months.

Furthermore, it looks to me like you've picked out most of the US Based Providers. What do you Canadians have against the US, ay?

Thank you for linking to my site, that helps in our search rankings. As I stated before I am sure that this site is clean. There are no links to the sites you listed below, if you know where they are, please post them here so that the rest of us can see them.

You're getting your wires crossed here. #1, CertifyExpress is OWNED by Testking. Do you really think I would be stupid enough to not notice that?

You also don't understand how important it is to get every legitimate piece of advertising that you can out there.

If someone goes to a known braindump site and clicks on a legitimate PTP's Advertisement, where are they going?

Are they 'well known'? Since you've known all of the other information you couldn't get right so far, please tell us just how you came to the conclusion that Certways.com is providing candidates with Braindumps.

WHO??? I don't think I've even seen them. They're not listed in any of the lists on my site.

But, just a preliminary look at their site and their information, I can tell you that they are not a braindump provider. And I can tell you that they are probably connected to

Again, never heard of them. Funny though how you have chose websites that are all listed on the same server with the same IP Address. Is this a plug!!! Are you trying to promote your sites here.

Ok, I'm going to make you a deal here.

You either come out now and admit that what you're doing is to plug your own sites, and that CertGuard is not doing anything wrong, or when I do find the connection between you and any ONE of these sites that have been listed, I will come after you with EVERYTHING I have in my arsenal. You will be sue from so many ways that you won't even know which way your head is spinning.

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That's it, you're gone, I'm coming after you with everything I can. I know FOR A PERSONAL FACT that GoCertify AND GoExam are on the up and up. I PERSONALLY WORK WITH the owner of that site. Her lawyers and mine will be contacting you soon.

Your IP Address has been logged.

I'm snipping everything else, it's all pointless drivel that won't make a bit of difference what is said about it. Anything that this guy claims is worthless and was nothing more than a sick joke. And should not be taken as anything more than a joke.

-- CertGuard

Reply to
Robert Williams [CertGuard]

Hi Robert,

I congratulate your efforts on your recent networkworld.com articles. With regards to certain comments that you have made in response to my post, I still see a discrepancy. You state to stay away from websites that state you will pass on your first try, but when I read comments from

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it states the exact words below. First try is also in italic so I guess it stands out.
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"Transcender software is so comprehensive that IT professionals who use Transcender to prepare for their certification exams feel confident they will pass their exams on the first try--or otherwise be eligible to receive a refund on their purchases. For more information about the BEST guarantee in the IT test prep industry, click here."

It also states, "Industry Best 100% Pass Guarantee". So this contradicts your statement.

With regards to gocertify.com and Goexam, I did not say they sell braindumps. I stated they seem to be selling braindumps according to your review of websites.

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I am not going to go any further on this. I think you are doing a great job with regards to getting the IT industry the proper training. I still think it is up to the manager's that have to test who they interview. But, this is just my point of view. You have provided many good points with regards to the information I have obtained with regards to your company.

May I suggest, that you be more friendly and calm when dealing with questions pointed to the IT Certification industry. I don't see how people will listen to you if you are not very nice. There are many posts on these newsgroups that consider you not to be very friendly. Good Work Robert!!!

Reply to
kevinkops11

Kevin,

If you need any further clarification on this, then you can contact me on CertGuard.com

We wish you luck in your Certification Endeavors.

-- Robert Williams CertGuard

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